2 New Golems For Richter crew.

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  1. Andrew Lynas

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    He did need a Specific Magically Active/Charged Material to be the Heart/Core of the Golem, in the case of the Golem he made he used the Material he created from the Defeated Slime, it had a strongly Attuned Earth Magic and a minor Life&Light Attunement. In order to create a Dark Golem or a Life or Fire (ect) Golem he would need to find it create something with a strong Elemental Attunement to those Element's, he could probably use the Blood or Flesh of the Dark Abomination for a Dark Golem to create a suitably Elementally Active Material, and the Life Root for a Life Golem.
    Actually different types of Slimes could likely be easily Processed to create different Magically Active Substances for Golem creations, what with them being so adaptable and diverse a species?
     
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    Richter started with an element stone of magic level 3 whatever that means. It was worth several hundred gold according to Aleron, though for the most part such powerful resources can't be bought.

    Considering the average working class man gets around 2 silver a fortnight, or a max of around 10 gold per year before taxes, costs of living and so on, several hundred gold is a princely sum. It would take a village of several hundred people years of saving every iron bit they can scrape up to do it.
     
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    When Ricther killed the stone slime he received two items one was a stone slime core that looked like a green stone of some sort. The second item was a stone cylinder with streaks of green that pulsed as if it had a beating heart. The last item rated as a three. I believe that to be the item Ricther made his golem from.

    So Drag are you saying that if someone killed a stone slime and they happened to find a core or a cylinder that they wouldn’t ever sell them?

    Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Ricther would find one on the shelf of every store. Although I do believe things can often be acquired especially when everyone knows you have the gold to pay for them.
     
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    I think they're usually just appropriated by the kingdom, or a guild since they are so valuable. Give the guy who found it a small bonus and carry on
     
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    I can definitely see that in Ricthers Mist Village. Seeing how his system is the ideal socialist model. Everyone living there are working for and the betterment of the village. Similar to the soul stones he would definitely give them some sort of bonus. That is if they had the talent to find them. Some adventurers are most likely to find such things and would know its true value. Ricther should put those on his dungeons list to confiscate just in case. With Ricther getting that core gem and the level three stone cylinder from the small stone slime it makes me wonder. What he would get from the giant green slime that was guarding the gate for the Lich?
     
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    It would depend on what the Elemental make up of the Behemoth Slime might be. But considering what it is I would say that it would be much Rarer a Species and have much better possible Loot.
     
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    Aleron implied that items with mana level 3 were extremely valuable to their owners. He also says they sometimes do end up on the market, but its very rare.

    If I were to venture a guess, highlevel adventurers with access to high level buchering or other looting skills capable of extracting such materials, are likely rare in the peninsula on account of it being an undeveloped backwater with few trainers. If so such items would be much rarer there than their rarity implies.

    Futhermore, Richter's looting bloodline Petrifying Ghost Harvest only obtained a mana level 2 drop, Earth stone. But his pop Master ability Hidden Treasures increased it to a mana level 3 drop, Elemental Earth stone. The vast majority of people would get nothing from a slime and those that did wouldn't get the upgraded version of the drop.


    Putting out a request would be one way to get access to higher level materials, likely at a significant markup as the seller basically sets their price. Being a wellknown crafter is another way. Many such resources are likely sold directly to the relative handful of people capable of using them, in return for preferential treatment.
     
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    Preferential treatment? You mean some extra gold?

    So Ricther mentions the guy backnon earth that played the game version of the Land. He told how he spent a million dollars trying to by the mythril to make his golem. He mentioned how devastating it was and how no army could stand against it. He said it could barely be scratched. If that guys version of stone cylinder cost the same as Ricthers his entire cost was heavier in the materials making the golems body. That sounds to me that Ricther should look for enemy mines or those high value areas where he could form such a high value golem.
     
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    With Ricther having an iron mine and iron being a common element that should be Ricthers next choice. An iron golem might not be as good as some other types of metal but it would still be pretty awesome.
     
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    Extra cash might be part of it.

    But preferential treatment goes beyond that. If you keep selling high-value resources to a given faction or craftsman, you build a relationship. Its what the white pearl company is doing with Richter, they want him to use them as his primary outlet for the treasures he finds and produces. In return they will take greater care not to be seen as cheating him, they will look for items he wants, that sort of thing.

    A craftsman giving preferential treatment might design a specialised set of gear for their most important suppliers, modeled to their stats and needs, instead of selling generic stuff and without demanding massive extra charges for personalized gear. It could also mean getting ahead in line for crafting projects and them putting in their utmost efforts rather than going through the motions and cranking out something good enough. Like Krom did they might take talents or secondary skills that do not further their primary goals as crafters, but are valuable to their suppliers. In return they get first pick of special resources, schematics, knowledge and so on that the adventurers get their grubby little hands on.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that was an artificer built golem. Stronger than the version Richter can build.
     
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    Richter will need the Mechanic Skill/Talent(?) before he can build Mechanical Golems, but if he gets it via his Unconventional Materials Crafting Skill then he should be able to build some TRULY Interesting creations and new forms of Magically Active Substances and use them in new ways. Might end up with a Unconventional Mechanic or Crafting Talent?
    Richter should look into getting more Artistic Skills, they should benefit and possibly even Synergies with some of his Crafting Skills, as well as granting different Secondary/Tertiary Stats, as well as the Creativity Stat.
     
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    I thought it was just a golem made of mythril. I know he mentioned mechanical constructs when he was buying his Golem talent. The first time a recall anything about a construct was when he fought Nexus and his mechanical bird.
     
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    It was I believe mentioned one time before that, when they were all arguing about what to use the original Mana Core for, someone wanted to make a Golem with it but then someone else said that without a Mechanic you wouldn't be able to build a truly Powerful Golem, or at least something like that.
     
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    Dont we have a forge, a ton of materials nad oh yes GNOMES!!!??

    so again why cant we start the tier 0 mechanical golem project?

    This will be the real.deal, but surelly "mechanic" can train from an early lvl.

    Unless the mechanic would come with other economic migrants.. we have to grow one.
     
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    They'd likely need a few years of research just to figure out the most basic elements of mechanical golem creation. Training someone without them even understanding the fundamentals seems difficult.
     
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    Honestly, Aleron in my opinion has grown and Gifted Ricther way to much. A metal construct is a major achievement and I hope not to see one at this point for some time to come. An iron golem would be nice enough. Perhaps he will round a corner and find another giant scorpion eating iron beans.
     
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    Oh, good point. I was gonna ask why he didn’t just use random stuff but that makes sense.
     
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    Hmm it would not make a lot of seance if some random gnome would just create a super stromg mechanical golem.

    But how and when gnome would create such a thing? He has to level up in hmm mechanics? and at lvl 45 of that skill he vould get a profession as golem artificer. And then with a lot of TP's he should be able to create at least a level 1 mechanical golem. Still the path until this seems like a very long one. But witbout it and some schematics I hardly see a way for it..
     
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    Just to add to this, his drop was decreased due to his initial rooting around in there by roughly the same amount they were increased by his pop ability. He could potentially could have had the same drop without proccing his pop ability had he not shoved his hands in.
     
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