Adventurer Bonus: Relic/Artifact

Hmm could be it only registers things learned/ after the specialization, but doesn't it count rooms built prior?

Might the new rooms/ beasts be counted as what the current Master has added, rather than what is added after the specialization became active?

 

I think it's just what's after the specialization started. Like it had the room for the entrance chamber but that didn't count towards the total, I don't think.

 

Well I suppose, but I

Well he didn't exactly add any of those Beasts. Dude was on in a different area completely when most all that happened.

 

Ok I can see that was badly put. Lets say creatures added under his "management" as opposed to those added by prior leaders or during "wild" periods (in this case none, but the Dungeon in Law has more than a thousand years of history).

 

I notice no one has mentioned the Goblin/Orc Horde outside of the mist. Is it not possible, due to the increase in defense from the dungeon they will be drawn into the traps? Would that not also help push it over the edge to level again?

 

I am uncertain if DPs will be gained from the defenses. I thought about it, and I see arguments for and against.

I would normally say no but maybe yes for these defenses. We know the rocks can call beast or humans from the description.

As far as pushing it over the edge, unless there are bonuses like the kills for war points (specialists, etc.), then I don't think it is enough. At max he has most of a day left.

 

easey lil bra
every vlg peasan sacks like 0.5 or 0.75 l of his blood. we has 1k dudes.. plus sprites easily will get 15k DP's in less than a day and reach lvl 15, what grants us bonuses!
be thanked!

Yes lil bro, Pok has calculated avg points form the 0.5l of blood and hes right. For calc .. Richtos second intrusion to the dungoen was used as base. He bled a lot then. well many dudes did.

Calkeys:

1k population + 300 sprites = > form 600 to 700 liters of blood.

Add 50% DP's bonus form ANY SOURCE!

GainedDps = ( 700 liters of blood ) *1.5(50% bonus for Specialization) = 25k DP's. =>

1050 liters of blood total. that is a lot of blood and we have a BLOOD dungeon.

Now I know I know Drago will say impossibru! is it?

Spoiler

we have 300+ viles of Dark aberration blood. and its body parts
so total ~1200 liters of blood. this is insane.

Dungoen grows by sacking slaves to it, what is slave? Slave = 3 liters of blood.

P.S. bring me a better idea to get more DP's/ day or in a few days and u'll be rewarded!

 

I think I need to take a break from the site. I could actually make out what you’re saying here. But, hey, you might want to cut down on the binge drinking. Just saying.

Also, they should kite labyrinth beasts back to the dungeon and kill ‘em in there. Much easier than getting a whole village to donate a lot of blood each.

Plus, I bet he could get the pixie queen to let loose with a couple of drops of blood. That has to be special.

 

What if they hung out around the labyrinth portal going back to the MV. Ricther could could use his summon monster scroll then make it chase them back through to his dungeon.

 

Indeed, my reply was only to the new member who asked the question.
Have forgotten that others of Great skill might stumble upon this discussion.
Anyhow what I wanted to say is that in one day or more like

• 4h or so we will collect enough blood to level the Dungeon to 15 Level.
• And it has no risk
• with healing properties in the land and new house of healing this should have no impact whatsoever on anything.

Now with labyrinth creatures, you seem to forget that they Should have killed Richtos party and the entire village. Labyrinth is where Gods die Pumpkin ;DD
But what actually do we get with just a single additional level to the dungeon lvl 14 vs 15.. minor improvements...
but that might be enough for the bugbears to be so surprised: they have expected dungoen lvl 1 or 2 and now its lvl 15..
more dps..
but main advantage would have been additional Legendary bonus to village specialization and spec. lvl+.

 

That’s an interesting idea. Is that the chaos monster thing scroll? If it’s friendly to him maybe he could get it to kite some enemies into the dungeon.

 

I really doubt they’d get there quick enough, especially when Richter is gone from the village. And it’s a ton to ask of everyone.

 

This is similar to the whole burying the dead in the sands edgy nonsense

High expenditure of social/ political capital for marginal gains.

 

Cptn you sanava
you did it again
bringing back home the beer and the bacon hehe

great idea. just great.

 

There are tribes in the amazon that only live on milk and blood. They survive on it and get all the necessary vitamins. So blood is good for the Dungeon.
Also letting the blood flow, or releasing the bad blood was quite a technique in the middle ages for ahem healing .

Now its additional dungeon lvl(14->15). With some minor discomfort for stronger dungoen... that will last for ages, but discomfort is like a sting. Discomfort for ppl of the land is a ridiculously small price. For the relations and PR not so much.
Now if this was done like 1 week ago when the dungeon was just created?! we would have gotten additional lvl for the village specialization of Adventuring and a new super op Legendary bonus.
now bonuses might be minor as sad as it is to say. Still think it is worth it. we could measure this attempt with say 50 guards and see if next day dp count was increased or not.

 

Going to level 15 you get a major add. Remember one free entrance for every fifth level added. Of course you might not consider a entrance major. I would argue other wise. It grants a new opportunity for the dungeon to feed, grow, and learn. It also grants Ricther a greater area he can use dungeon transport. For Ricther that alone is huge. Dungeon transport will allow him to escape and evade all the enemy invaders with a simple casting.

To me going from one entrance to having four is great. Just think of the ability it would grant him if he could find ley lines to place those entrances on. Four entrances to the dungeon granting those locals the opportunity to find their own node roads to operate. Ricther being the dungeon master he could control and tax those people traveling the node road. With portcullises guarding each entrance Ricther could enforce his taxation on the node road. He could also have his own greater portal network in those dungeon entrances placed along ley lines if he can get close enough to them. The whole time this network offers multiple layers of protection from dungeon magic granting access to armed guards with fortifications.

 

Okay i'll admit I haden't thought of the extra entrance. So why not feed the dungeon the blood, internal organs and bones from the creatures the hunters bring down? As well as the village trash pile.

 

Lvl 15 and a new entrance is a major boon depending on where it can be placed, since Richter can't access his dungeon interface I'd assume it's related to his domain as far as placement ( makes the whole thing seem not well thought out by AK since a person could claim a newly spawned dungeon or an unclaimed dungeon and not be a village owner/etc... ), but even so a southern entrance for the kindiir and sprites a western one for the elves to improve relations with them and a northern one to improve relations with the dwarves isn't the worst use of the entrances if it is limited by his domain not to mention the increase in taxes he'd gain as you mentioned for entrance and exit from the dungeon entrances.

Forcing a DP gain doesn't seem worth it to me. Yeah the book is written day to day but realistically the base DP generation ( 496.12/day as of book 8) is already really high so assuming there's 30 days/month on average (unknown in the 14 month system) that means in a year over 208k DPs are generated outside of consumed adventurers, lab monsters, god node, village spec increases, etc... the bigger hurdle to advancing the spec will be making rooms in my opinion as they need to figure out those rooms requirements, functionality, and spend the time carving them out. Sure those additional DPs gained can be used at Roswan's discretion but the moral hit and relationship hit for forcing a blood donation would be a bigger blow long term. Since the dungeon is just absorbing energy....well task someone to empty the latrines and the hunters refuse pit into the dungeon instead! Still provides energy aka DPs but you aren't bleeding your people dry. That also brings up the reason why trying to grow a tree from a seed core or build a core building inside the dungeon is bad. The dungeon absorbed the mist lights originally placed by Richter so why wouldn't the dungeon just feed on the energy from a magic core or seed core if it was placed inside, remember Randy's quote about how all dungeons want to do is consume....so turn it into the world's best landfill and make the sprites and pixies happy the village isn't polluting their forest home while still generating extra DPs without a consequence.

On a side note the room requirement for the village spec was 1, 3, then 7 that we saw or 2^0 (1)-> 2^1(2) -> 2^2(4) so the next level would be 2^3 or 8 new rooms added and the one after would be 2^4 or 16 new rooms added. Since we don't know if an actual blueprint will be needed for specialized rooms like an apothecary, which with how dungeon master is tied to a specialized engineer it seems like a natural tie-in, outside of the 1 free room remaining it could be a period of time before additional rooms are created. I'm again assuming stupid cheese like a "silent room" won't count as they could just make a small silent room, meditation room, prison(where the dungeon slowly leeches life from the prisoner), yoga room, bathroom, bedroom, etc... and just cheese out a bunch of rooms to meet that requirement.

 

It could just have a generic distance limit, that gets expanded with the presence of a PoP. I'm thinking that it only would gain bonus distance due to the common "intrinsically linked to his soul" that keeps occurring, like with his core buildings and such.

I put it at 523.09, though I'd be willing to discuss the math. I laid out the equations I used in a spreadsheet visible here:
https://drive.google com/file/d/1PlIvJLy9fvn1G9AKPizbLUXt6NYA-Xga/view?usp=sharing
Place a period between google and com, should be able to download a copy if you want to mess with it
Took a couple revisions, but using this I was able to match up with all the totals laid out at different points in the book.
This keeps in mind that we don't know how the God Node will affect DP gen, if it does change the bonus from the master node. Yes I am aware that I spent too much time on something trivial that aleron can hand wave at any time, and am a huge nerd. Still, think it turned out alright.

This is unknown as to the exact layout, but he released an updated version of book seven, where Randy actually supplies us with '33.5 fortnights in a calendar year'. Now leaving room for rounding this could be from around 467 to 471, but with aleron being the giant nerd he is, and that 33.5 comes out to it exactly, I think 469 is how many days are in the year.

Otherwise.. yeah, totally agree.

 

Good points all around. It isn’t realistic to take that morale hit for a little benefit. I don’t know about the additional portals and node roads and such but there’s potential there.
They absolutely should dump the contents of the refuse pit and latrines into the dungeon. Maybe into the well. It’s just free energy to the dungeon and waste to them (assuming they don’t use the refuse pit).
Cheesing the room requirements would be funny but I doubt it’s super possible (not enough DPs for Roswan) but I like the bit about the engineer and building rooms.