All things Dungeon

Discussion in 'Debates & Discussions' started by Captain BlackJack, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. Mister Bill

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    I don’t think that beasts and animals only means undead, as well. Maybe after he gets access to death magic?
     
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    It might not now. Although it was said that the dungeon had learned how to make many of the skeletons it consumed it said it also learned what they were like in life. Making a differentiation between learning them and learning what they were like in life just strikes me. You are most definitely right the dungeon has to know death magic to do it. So how many death type creatures did the dungeon absorb? Those dead weren’t all Pixie size either if size makes a difference. Which I think half the worlds human population would say size does matter. That not including death enchanted weapons, items, or armor. Then there was that mass injection of mixed Magic’s That the dungeon redirected the portal to absorb the energies. To me it seems within the realms of possibility. Just consider how much energy and the dead it absorbed. Then think about how far the dungeon jumped in levels.
     
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    I think it will have made good progress on unlocking some magics (and likely gotten enchantments and such) but it’s a long, long way to getting it totally ready. Especially when it’s not one of the local leylines.
     
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    No doubt, but it was 200 dead and enough energy to jump the dungeon to level 14 and give them an epic bonus. Not to consider all the ambient death energy it would have absorbed from the open portal from Singh’s domain. Out of all the magic absorbed it would have absorbed more death magic then anything else. I can agree it might not have awakened death yet. I just think the possibility of it having been awakened is higher then anything else.
     
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    Once it awakens the power of Death it should be able to raise undead beasts and animals. Facing an undead rhino or grizzly is a pretty terrifying prospect.

    Or a zombie elephant where you have to cut off the head to kill it.
     
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    I think that just because the Dungeon can Learn everything about the creatures it Absorbs and their Patterns doesn't mean that it is actually capable of actually Spawning/Forming them, hence while it might have learnt all about the different Undead it is still only capable of Spawning the Beast type one's, at least for now(?).
     
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    I agree. It did say that it had learned one of the creatures types and thought it would be able to make it given time. Or something to that effect.
     
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    Oh I was thinking that one was a bordercase. Maybe a beast that has evolved out of the category or a tool-using beast.
    Could also be a higher tiered beast.
     
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    Like the worms. That’s what Ricther had suggested.
     
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    Yes, Hisako said high level (higher tier?) beasts could use weapons, which was a fair reason for an armory room.
     
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    I would like to reiterate one of my horrible ideas here.

    The broken up old buildings that were teleported to the MV should be sacrificed to the well of offering one log at a time. Those buildings might not be functional but neither were those broken up skeletons. Perhaps that way the dungeon might get the suggestion. It would be nice if the dungeon could reassemble those buildings in a lair. The armory would be a very nice addition. It could also be studied by Roswan as well. Knowledge of any enemy structures would be great.
     
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    I wish it could, but if ruins of a building don't come up initially... I doubt it counts any longer. Though maybe there is a subs kill in construction that would have helped identify it. But I think one of the engineers or builders would have said something about them.
     
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    Didn’t Randy say it was believed to be a armory? I think they had found it with some weapons. I know it had to have some damage but even if it didn’t have any Ricthers crew couldn’t reassyble it.

    I believe it came apart during teleportation.
     
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    Ya it was said that it must have been an armory, because of the higher quality weapons.
     
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    I wonder what the other buildings would have been. Ricther did manage to get the town hall and the bat roost put back together but it was said several other buildings were transported as well. One of those being the armory. What could the other one or two be?
     
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    Probably housing
     
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    That’s a fantastic idea, IMO. What has he got to lose besides some broken up logs?
     
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    Question: why do folks think an additional item of power can be added to the dungeon?
     
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    Unknown, but Items of Power can be taken from the Dungeon. That is all I know.
     
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    Yeah, if you kill the harbinger and do some special stuff, IIRC. It’s a lot more work than dropping something down the well. Some comments here gave me the impression that adding a new one would be easy and/or quite doable.
     




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