Celestial pixies - OP scouts?

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  1. Dragon

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    I've been doing a bit of digging on the celestial pixies, and they seem like they may be the most powerful but also most pidgeonholed race around. Now we all know their racial stats and bonuses ;) but


    Celestial Pixies receive two points to distribute per level, and each level gives + 3 to Dexterity, + 1 to Agility and + 1 to Intelligence. Celestial Pixies receive a racial boost to movement speed.

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Predators: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 7) (Kindle Locations 13776-13777). Tamori Publications, LLC. Kindle Edition.

    In addition pixies are tiny, which I believe gives them an 80% reduction in the efficacy of strength and constitution, with a similar boost to agility and dexterity. Endurance, luck, charisma, intelligence and wisdom are unaffected by the size modifiers.

    That means that their effective stat growth just from passives is.
    Dex + 5.4 per level.
    Agility + 1.8 per level.
    Free points 0.4 - 3.6 per level.
    or
    7.6 - 10.8 stat points.

    In other words a level 20 pixie has at least
    126 dexterity as well as 54 agility. To which you add the racial speed bonus (likely scales with level as well) and you get the fastest flier around, one no one at their level can hope to hit with anything other than largescale aoe spells.

    Those are downright broken stats.
     
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    Weaknesses are Dmg output and for the females being limited by being bound to a tree that can die and limits their movement. The cant get too far from their tree and they are vulnerable when in their cocoon.
     
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    Ok having read it up on pixies some more, the stat reduction and boosting is probably around 40%.
    Which still gives the average level 20 celestial pixie 93.4 dexterity even if they never add another point.
     
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    Their speed and combat shape could give make them really deadly in combination with a sprite. Deliberately going for the eyes for instance, would force any foe to deal with the pixie or risk blindness. Pixies do not need to kill on their own if they can more than double the killrate of their sprite companion. Not to mention how hard they could make it for a mage to cast spells.

    Harrasment is a great tactic. Use the sprites to target mages and archers, people who rely on concentration to be effective combatants.

    With nearly 100 dex and 40 agility, the chance of being randomly hit by someone in your own level range is remote.

    There is also the option of a suicide run, basically maxing out on speed and burying themselves in the face of an enemy, doing whatever damage they can. Should be quite substantial, a high-speed ball of spikes in the face is no joke.
     
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    Agility – Improves accuracy with ranged or thrown weapons. Determines movement speed. Determines dodge. Determines balance. Affects ability to move without being detected. Other unknown effects to be discovered. Dexterity – Determines attack speed. Improves damage with ranged weapons. Improves reflexes. Improves accuracy of melee weapons. Other unknown effects to be discovered.

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Founding: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 1) . Aleron Kong. Kindle Edition.

    I would spend the two free points on agility and rely on training to raise the others. Gotta max out on dodge and movement speed.

    Also, pixies will apparently be firing a lot of pixie blasts.
     
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    How so? Though I suppose with enough training they can get the ability to be available more often. I do expect them to get to lvl 20 very quickly, well before enough Pixie blast training has occured.

    As such, do the sprites and pixies share XP like Richtær and Alma? I'm gonna say yes, because pixies probably can't kill things of moderate size on their own, well aren't supposed to be able to kill big things on their own (medium sized beasts and people). I personally think they are very deadly.
     
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    If they do share Experience it probably at very low exchange rate.
     
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    Pixies should be fast firing because their main attack is a racial ability that uses mana to fire blasts. That sounds like it should be determined by dexterity

    Now for a pixie to bring down most creatures on their own is probably difficult. But they don't have to, they are a hive race. They breed even faster than goblins do and with their speed and high dexterity its they can swarm most creatures even at a much higher level and bring them down by working together.

    Its also possible that they have a continous racial questmechanic that give them exp for their daily caretaking of nature, and bigger chunks for fixing problems. Like the corrupted wolves, the life pixies might have been able to restore them instead of killing them.

    Thirdly, there is a good chance that the pixie blast ability is related to the sprite arrow ability. If so they should be able to fire stronger blasts by pouring in more mana.
     
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    It is not that they don't have the possible attack rate, but it seems like having the fastest firing 6 shooter. Nice while it lasts, but it doesn't seem like it's going to last long enough for the attack rate to matter.
     
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    Actually, pixies have as much mana as everyone else. +1 to intelligence gives a pixie the same as it gives a sprite, goblin or human. Those blasts will tear enemies to pieces and it will be hell trying to counterattack due to their size and speed.

    Again, pixies aren't designed to face larger races 1 on 1. They don't need to, with their population growth they'll be all over the forest in a decade.
     
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    lol, sounds like a plague ..of tree loving spirits. Hopefully they won't kill all the other races that chop down trees. Or maybe the other races can learn to live without chopping down trees.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what kind of true silver armour Krom can make for them. Might have to use the jewlers tools to make the outfit lol. The armour pieces could have some serious Enchantments placed on them. Not sure what Enchantment I would put on them.

    Probably distract, heal, and life defense.

    I suppose with their natural claws and metal wings, maybe unarmed attack damage and attack speed are better; with Distract.
     
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    That's an intriguing thought. Can they place standard enchantments on such a small set of armor? Can it contain that much magic?
     
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    The pixies will likely balance their population at some point, rather than bury the Land in pixies. Just because they can have a 200 - 400% growth of the base mature female pixie population every year, that does not mean they will have that kind of growth. Queens are in their own category, but unless there are a lot more queens on the way, they won't be as critical for the replenishment of the race in a few years.

    Just the first generation of pixies could have more children than she does in the next pixie hatching. It depends on how long it takes pixies to become mature, though i imagine they need a few years. It also depends on how often pixies actually decide to breed. Like other races they should have their own motivations and desires driving that. Though the queen will likely encourage them to find a tree to commune with, cause more pixies is good.
     
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    The material can handle it, and size doesn't matter for containing magik. Alma's armour is quite small. There is a case where size does matter: if they are as small as arrow heads, he might be able enchant then as a set of a dozen at a time.
     
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    Johan, that's what I was thinking, would have to remember to put the finishing touches to the Armour at the same time, just before Enchanting them all.
     
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    Would it work with multiple enchantments?
     
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    It would (assuming he gets the mass enchantment for suits of pixie armor) but there is a slight complication with multiple enchantments.

     
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    That is fine. He isn't really hurting for soul stones at the moment (as in the village, underground he is hurting for them a bit).

    All that is need now is some gem crafting combination. What was it onyx that increased concealment? Use that in combination with distract to make sure they are not viewed.
     
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    This is a good point. I think after a few more quests around the MV are complete, the series could benefit from a few years time gap. Ritcher is so far above everyone else, power wise. At some point the other villagers aren't helpful for anything other than a farm. Whereas in a few years, the pixies can mature, there will be more merdion sprites, his soldiers can be professionals from dungeon diving, Simon and a few others can become quite powerful in their own right, and the wealth/ population will grow. Because right now the village is still threatened by even small neighboring armies, and if they were to take on any powerful monsters or demigods, only Ritcher, Randy, and the HM would have any effect.
     




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