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  1. PokemonThug

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    Kudos Waterhobit!
    Great notice.
    Perhaps after clearing lvl2 Richter would upgrade his life/air/dark/water power yo level2
    And juicier rewards

    Should be relativelly easy niw being tier 2, lvl 2 in tier 2.. and now having super op enchanted items.

    Oh soo good.
    I wonder what else there is in your mind
     
  2. Waterhobit

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    There is also another dungeon in his lands mentioned when he received a quest.

    Congratulations! You have unlocked the Quest: Unlock your Power III. Your village will increase your power, but you must care for it in turn. Currently, there is a local dungeon that needs to be cleared out. Reward: Unlock one of the Powers. Yes or No?

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Forging: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 2) (p. 467). Kindle Edition.

     
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    Now Sir WaterHobit, How could have Richter cleared this Dungeon with ease in less then 6h with only a few companions and unlocked his one of the (water/dark) powers just befor the Litch fight?
    Prove youreself WaterHobit!

    How could he have done it with ease?
     
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    Started a re-read. Futen can't go far beyond the village bounds. Note, not the domain bounds but those of the village itself.

    “I am bound to the village. It is only because you have absorbed the Heart Crystal that I can go so far afield. Normally, I cannot move more than half a mile from the village borders. Now that we are past that point, I cannot be more than one hundred yards from you.” Knowing that there were eight enemies within one hundred yards, it seemed clear that there would be close quarter fighting.
    “Futen, can you make your light brighter? Bright enough to see by in a dark cave?” “Yes, Master, but away from the village, I will not be able to maintain a bright light for more than several minutes without rest.”
    “Does the mist go into the cave? Can we rely on its concealment?” Sion asked. “No, the mist stops at the cave mouth.”
    No auto mapping from Futen, at least at current village level.

    May change with settlement level/ PoP level
     
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    Wonder if there are any Mapping Spells, if think that there would be, probably many different certainty different focused on what to map out.
     
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    Might even be able to combine them. Multicasting to get better and better definition of the surrounding areas, adding deeper magics for things like bodies and levels and dispositions, and higher energy magics for magical concentrations and ley lines etc.
     
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    Multicasting sounds like a new skill or subskill that Richter needs to learn. (Yes I know we have seen HM use it) But multicasting seems like it would require a deep understanding of spell theory and likely I high skill level in any magics that are being utilized. While Richter could and should learn this eventually, it seems way over his head currently.
     
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    Just take the tamed lvl 92 mauler(still have 40h of tamed monster time on the clock.. Mauler could cut trees, dig latrines,, slaughter bugbear encampment... possibilities are limitless.. on only limited by richtos haste and dungeon teleport spell... to travel up to 10 miles instantly) and hit that other dungeon. Easy new power and stuff.
    About Futen, I think he is mostly unused.. because as an ex Master mage.. he could teach Ricto a lot of things..
     
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    Find out how MV cast the armor creation spell, settlement spell or specialization bonus or other. Gift all people with items that are mist specific (like mist cloak from mist root, wtf). Perhaps the person would be hidden even if a salve is used to see through the mist.
     
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    Leveling the village to tier two could be interesting. Not sure exactly how this could happen, but it seems like we have entered a phase where new magic forms are being absorbed and opening up possibilities. The dungeon for instance can use new Magic’s in the future, so could Richter, and probably villagers as well with the celestial fruit.
     
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    Use the mist workers as "grabbers". Them doing little damage against an opponent is a minor inconvenience as long as they can hold the arms/ legs of said person and stuff their mouth with cloth to prevent spellcasting.
     
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    A second tier of a settlement or the second level of a village?
     
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    If the Settlement restricts the settlement/central building (townhall or Goblinhold) which in turn limits the rest of buildings, then the lynch pivot point is the central building. If the central building can be increased without the restriction of being one level above the settlement level, then it will break a system that artificially holds back settlements.

    But it won't help much without settlement points to instantly increase the level of the rest of the buildings in the settlement.

    Not the best time (because a higher level is always better), but a good time is just after the settlement reaches level 2 and Richtær defeated another master of a place of power to get all those points.

    I believe there are advantages that are available for higher level central buildings (which is usually restricted by the settlement level) that could be taken advantage of before it is usually allowed. Probably village jobs and more.
     
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    Ok so some of this has been mentioned by others, but I think Aleron has opened up a major cheat with level 1 skillbooks. Now it does take a day to make them, but on the flipside once made they can only be used by those with an affinity greater than 50%. Hence for a skill that only 1 in 100 has, you can pass around the same skillbook.


    “What happens if someone without the required affinity reads the book?” Richter asked curious. “If they have less than a 50% affinity in the skill, they would not even be able to use the skill book. If they possess middling aptitude, then they would advance in the skill until their affinity reached 50%. The skill book would still be destroyed and the knowledge of the higher levels would be lost forever.” Randolphus stopped searching the chamber and looked at Richter, “Why do you ask, my lord?”

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Predators: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 7) (Kindle Locations 12247-12251). Tamori Publications, LLC. Kindle Edition.

    To write a skillbook you need enchanting and scribing, neither skill is all that common. Still, if they can get 2 scribes with the enchanting skill working on day 1 on a scribe and enchanting skillbook, by day 2 they will have either a third enchanter scribe or an enchanter and a scribe pair(hereafter just called an enchanter scribe).
    day 3: 4 scribes and a book
    day 4: 6 scribes and a book
    day 5: 9 scribes and a book
    day 6: 14 enchanter scribes
    etc.

    evt. they will run out of people with one of the required talents of course, but it could still ensure they have a couple dozen enchanter scribes to create skillbooks for every rare skill known to the villagers, one book for each skill only until said skillbook is used. So 15 scribes, 15 different skillbooks being made and tried out on the villagers. I think they will uncover some surprising and rare affinities, if not they store the skillbook until more villagers arrive.
     
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    Interesting. Very interesting. That's a great idea!
     
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    Once you've got all your scribes and enchanter they can move on to other skills they possess, and with higher levels the skills of others.

    The problem with all this is that it's pretty resource intensive with all the books and ink and crystal and what not. They need an appraiser that can tell the affinities of others even when they do not already posses skills. I'm hoping this will be the apprentice rank bonus for analyze, but seeing how that might be broken maybe limited to skills Richter possesses already/has already confirmed exist in others? Then he can custom make the skill books for each person and offer them as rewards for various menial quests. A great as I rise so shall you.

    And I mean menial like menial. Most everyone is already doing there part and should qualify once they declare fealty, but some of the hold outs could join the guard or one of the various work groups for half a year or a whole year and at the end he'll award them their highest affinity skills that he can see, giving them time to see how great it could be living there and he can sway them on the whole fealty thing, with a secret bonus reward of their next highest affinity skill also being awarded if they decide to stay on.
     
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    Price is the reason I want to focus on rare skills with the books, as you may need no more than 3 or 4 skillbooks for the entire population. The talented few can then enter specialised training dependent on their potential.

    For common skills I think it makes much more sense to set up some form of class/ teaching system where people are taught how to unlock the skills on their own if they have an interest in a subject, instead of investing expensive materials and valuable time. There could be several hundred with a basic affinity for sewing for example, but its probably not that hard to get started.

    My impression is rare skills are not just less common, they are also harder to learn on your own.
     
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    As for them staying on, that is already a requirement to have Richter unlock magic in them. They should not be given anything.

    While I can see the attraction of an appraiser, they are rare and they do not see every single affinity you have, they are paid well to test for one specific affinity.
     
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    I'm pretty certain that Skill Books are a LOT more time consuming and expensive to make them Spell Books.
     
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    They are at higher levels. A level 5 spellbooks takes
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5 days to make.
    thereas a level 5 skillbook takes
    1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15 days to make.


    “I, too, have created spellbooks with the help of a Scholar, my lord. The time required is miniscule compared to a skill book. The base time to create a spellbook is one day per spell level. A level five spell requires five days to finish.” Richter nodded, he already knew that. “The base time,” Randolphus continued, “to create a skill book increases with each level imparted, however. A level one skill book would onlyrequire one day, but a level two book would require three days and a level three, six. A level five skill book would therefore take fifteen days to finish.”

    Richter nodded. It wasn’t a one-to-one ratio like with spellbooks. It was easy to see how skill books could take an insane amount of time to produce. The unknown book would get him to level twenty-five, enough to get him to the first level of the apprentice rank. He started to calculate just how long it would take to make it when Alma interjected.

    *Three hundred and twenty-five days, master,*

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Predators: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 7) (Kindle Locations 12214-12220). Tamori Publications, LLC. Kindle Edition.

    But level 1 is just 1 day.
     




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