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Discussion in 'Debates & Discussions' started by Commander Azure, Apr 17, 2020.

  1. Johan

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    As long as it is low level spell. Apparently it gets less likely to learn the higher level spells for normal people.

    More may be required, especially for higher level spells. The quality of the materials also influences how likely it is for you to be able to learn the spell. For lower level spells, if your affinity is good, the likelihood is usually 100% or close to it, independent of the quality level. Believe me when I tell you, my lord, that you will want a higher quality spell book if you learn anything above Initiate level. There is no point in spending hundreds of gold to buy a spell book only to have its low quality give you only a 50% chance of actually learning the spell. The book turns to ash either way.”
     
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    That makes a lot of sense. We know weapons below a certain quality level cannot be enchanted at all and we have examples of weapons exploding due to Richter enchanting them beyond what they can endure. If spellbooks are poor quality they might even be dangerous to use, say a 50% chance of success, 40% chance of failure and 10% chance of a large explosion.
     
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    That's magic though, if he finds a construction worker with 100% affinity in cooking, he might still improve their lives by letting them know. I get not handing out magic willy nilly but not all skills are as life changing. A high affinity gambler currently diggin latrines could head up the inevitable casino of the mist village. And if he strikes out on his own deciding not to join the mist village, then there's an extra gambler out there. Not likely to have large repercussions for the village for making him more fulfilled knowing his highest affinity found skill was gambling.

    I think appraisers just charge to identify one skill's affinity. Why would they be limited to just one skill? Unless appraising is a talent for a proffessional of that particular skill's proffession it shouldn't matter, but by only telling the one skill they make it a gamble / a money train. Come asking for a specific skill then they only tell you that skill. Charge exorbitant fees to uncover someone's higher affinity skills without them knowing what to tell you to look for
     
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    That's paranoia speaking. If the appraisers knew every affinity a person has someone would be selling affinity charts for the top 20 affinities or similar :) There would always be outliers, people who refuse to toe the line.

    Maybe appraisers can read one affinity at a time, but said appraisal has a cooldown/ costs a lot of mana/ takes time?. With thousands of affinities available that limits them to testing for a small, predetermined set of affinities, at least at the beginning until they develop the profession/ specialisation.
     
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  5. Andrew Lynas

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    Considering that I think that Appraisers are an Profession in betting that it would depend on what Talents they have Purchased, and possibly if they Professed from Analyse or something similar but different. Also there's the matter of Specializations and Focuses at later Levels.
    Also the Lore Skill might very well effect Affinity Checks as well. Know Spells that have similar effects might also be useful and have a boosting effect?
     
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    In a connected but different Note, I'm wondering if there are any things that he can Absorb for his Body Enhancing Quest that might increase his Analyse Capabilities?
     
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    The skull of the lawmaker? The remains of the lich?
     
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    It seemed the lich had the in depth knowledge due to his staff rather than skill
     
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    The lich had some real skill, but i think most of it came from the sarchophagus and as you say, the staff. Still a highlevel creature regardless.
     
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    Should definitely have gotten some major upgrades seeing as the lich was likely tier 2 or higher as well.
     
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    No indication of it being tier 2 or higher from the kill prompts.
     
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    Would he have been told in a prompt before he became a Tier 2? If think not.
     
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    Hmmm he did undergo an Ascension though.. According to the memory from Nien. Huh


    This could also be it, not letting people know there's a threshold before their time, but overcoming a massively more powerful enemy should still be recognized in multipliers or something even if it's retroactive
     
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    Richter gained enough exp to level multiple times from the kill and quest rewards. The problem is that he was in a warparty, which splits the reward for the kill itself. Its possible he was originally awarded several hundred thousand exp, but split between 30 people or however many remained in the war party, it became insignificant.
     
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    Probably not.
     
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    Don't Enchant the dead so they can't rise. Raise each dead corpse one at a time and have Alma brain drain them again and again until they can no longer rise again. Fairly safe easy way to farm XP. Well not your own creature but get with Beyan and kill the ones he raises, that way the universe doesn't yell at you.
     
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    In fact go a step further. Beyan and Richtær could seriously grind their skills this way.

    Stand a hundred paces away.
    Beyan: I choose you my Zombie Bugbear!

    Richtær: I choose you Dragonling!

    Fight!!

    Beyan Chooses to cast death heal on Bugbear Zombie.

    Richtær imbues arrow.

    Beyan send Zombie to kill Dragonling

    Richtær sends Dragonling to kill Zombie

    Zombie is hit by enhanced imbued arrow!

    Dragonling uses Brain drain on Zombie, it's super effective!

    Zombie is defeated!

    Richtær has gained a Psi Krystal.

    [Just do that over and over and over]
     
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    Pretty sure their actions will be recognized for what they are, a pair of adventurers trying to use summoning/ necromancy in combination with an exp stealer. ;)
     
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    Or maybe the universe would forcibly change Beyan's relationship with Richter. Every zombie he killed lowering it fast enough to quickly turn Beyan into an enemy.
     
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    That one I find unlikely. Beyan and Richter would be in agreement about what is happening. That should take care of any ill feelings on Beyan's part.
     




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