POLL Dealing with Tier 2 experience mountain

Discussion in 'Debates & Discussions' started by Joe Schmoe, Feb 19, 2020.

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What lvl will Richter need to reach Tier 3?

  1. 50 or less

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  2. 51-60

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  3. 61-70

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  4. 71-80

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  5. 81-89

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  6. exactly 90 (double 45)

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  7. 91-99

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  8. exactly 100

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  9. over 100

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  1. ShoughtLoud

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    Or she could go out with the hunting parties /squads with Sion and the like and drain whole groups like she usually does just sans Richter's presence.
     
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    So that Alma isn't slowed with terrestrial (not earth but land) creatures (sprites), she takes the dark magic pixies with her (they can cast blindness). Then while the monsters are twitching (psi blast) and blind (pixie blast), she casts her return home spell, Dungeon Transport. This will take her and any creature to a dungeon transport sphere. To seal the deal, a special killing room...a dragons den, needs to be made with one of those special dungeon transports spheres with restricted access.

    It room could be a sucking tar pit so that the monsters are trapped, but she can sit on the head. Hopefully there is a way to make her immune to the trap.


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    The dark magic pixies can only cast force blast as an ability though. Theirs can cause blindness but it's not guaranteed. Also an air pixie with stun would probably be even better.

    Also she'd have to go back out to hunt one by one. Wouldn't taking a group of sprites who can move very quickly through the forest (faster than she could fly in a straight line without being above the tree tops) and bring down many creatures without killing all at once be more efficient? They can kill as she latches on and they can move on to the next hunt, immediately without having to traverse back from the Dungeon.
     
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    I would rather bring all the pixies that would be useful, but someone was going to protest.

    A combination of the two would work. Maybe start with your sprite way until they get too far out or too wounded (no need to cut off sprites from XP). I like the dungeon way because it will add more creatures to the Dungeon. But you don't need to keep adding the same creature over and again.

    She has that psi sense ability now, that lets her scan for beasts while flying over the tree tops very effectively. Easy to pick and choose your targets at a high rate of speed.
     
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    Psight? That ability was 'analyze' for Psi creatures I thought. It definitely did her no favors sensing the wolves or the hidden bugbears
     
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    That part was weird. They must have come in while she was busy brain draining.
     
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    Doubt they would bother trying to move around while she's there. The wolves maybe, but it read to me that the ability was just analyze which she lacked before.
    I don't think the bugbears were moving about when she was present. No real way to tell but I'm sticking with psight being a thought magic version of analyze, similar to Hisako's life magic version.
     
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    It is analyze like. but don't think it is not line of sight, but instead non-visible, non-line of sight psi energy. She was flying around for a long while trying to find a creature of the right level that was alone. She can sense creatures that are invisible via their thought energy (recall the first battle with bugbears at MV), and this seems ability an extension/upgrade of that sense. So if the bugbear was there and hidening it should have been sensed and it's description come up.

    I suppose it could have mental defenses, or a quite mind, but it read like she was being thorough.

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    Regarding which level to reach to ascend to tier 3, it seems like he would need to be past or at level 100 to reach another threshold. The reason I think so is that we are specifically told that it is all about how much energy a body can easily contrain, with humans having one of the lowest capacities of all races (which is an advantage as long as you have formed a powercore, gaining another tier pushes your growth across the board).

    Thats no longer the case at all, Richter is a legendary creature which means he has massive, massive potential/ "storage" that needs to be filled up to ascend. Call it the big, fat drawback to being legendary. I wouldn't be surprised if those that choose human tier 2 would be tier 4 for the same exp/ efforts when he finally is ready to ascend.
     
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    I think that increasing Ranks off sets the need for higher Levels in ordering Evolve.
     
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    I think you're right. But I also don't think the number of levels needed will go down just because the experience requirement has skyrocketed. I bet it's extremely rare for beings to ascend more than one time.
     
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    Wonder how many Ascendant Tiers there are, 7??
     
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    Hmmmmm
    Would someone become a god at tier 7? Would there be god tiers after that?
     
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    Damn
     
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    An Interesting thing that might be an error in the book.

    The reason why Richtær's XP requirement jumped from ~200,00 for level 46 to nearly a ~1,000,000 is because it is much more difficult to contain any more energy as a tier 1 human, the threshold was met. But now after he becomes tier 2 and the threshold is pushed back again, why hasn't the XP requirement dropped by down to ~200,000 instead of staying at ~1,000,000?

    If this is not an error, then his human tier 2 status can contain the same amount of power as the Tier 1. If so then he should be given the opportunity to ascend again...perhaps every level that he is still hitting the threshold.
     
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    Could be he has to overcome the bump then it will drop back down to more reasonable numbers?
     
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    Well Aleron doesn't explain it.

    Guess; Think of it as Richter having reached the limits of what can be done effectively with a tier one human body, its has reached its full potential and enhancing it further will get very expensive (people who cannot afford an upgrade, aka lack a powercore have to make do with this option). Alternatively, he could evolve to a bigger, badder, far more expensive to maintain and upgrade, version of himself. Its more expensive because its simply more complicated to upgrade this new body, mind and soul. Plus the universe seeks to balance growth in power, so no one can easily get too far ahead to the point where they can take on the armies of other nations.
     
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    I think gods are on a different track. For a tier 7 it could be a step down to become a god, as your power now depends primarily on your worshipers. Flipside being that if you become a major god with hundreds of millions worshipers you can likely wipe the floor with most tier 7 creatures.
     
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    Could be the exiles are up there, instead of gods.
     
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    That's an interesting idea
    Tier 1: Chaos Seed

    Tier 2: Chaos Lord

    Tier 3: Chaos Duke

    Tier 4: Chaos Archduke

    Tier 5: Chaos King

    Tier 6: Chaos Emperor

    Tier 7: Chaos Exileexile

    Plus Richter will become a celestial eventually, so Celestial Exile of Chaos
     




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