Eagerly Awaiting Book 9 [SPOILERS!]

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    120 dollars a year per nose. For a chance to maybe, possibly, in some alternate timeline, see a really nice picture before everyone else. Maybe you even get a chance at a chapter or two.
     
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    He just shouldn't make promises he can't keep. Originally, it was supposed to come with Monsters (not audio) then in march, then with monsters audio, and now who-knows-when. And when it comes out there probably will be a lot of typos that he hasn't caught. He was very productive at the beginning of his career but now he's slacking off.
     
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    Might need to go back to the hospital. He pumped out books while he worked.
     
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    I would imagine that writing was a form of stress relief then. Now it is a form of stress due to the asshole fans pestering him for dates and about math inconsistency in each book.

    edit: I have to add that this was sarcasm because it turns out that it reads really rough otherwise.
     
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    He just needs to retain an Excel expert to help him out. Then just link his text numbers to the excel numbers. That would help with one aspect at least.
     
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    Yeah, it does take you out of the story when you’re arguing with yourself about Richter already having passed a milestone before now.
     
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    I think if you bring him back Ricther would need to capture his spirit and trap his soul. Then somehow reunite them with his skeleton. If you don’t have all three parts you don’t have Caulder.
     
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    What???

    They had to have papers. Basically showing who they belonged to!

    Or they could be taken into custody.

    Nonhuman quarter? Where did it say anything about non humans having their own area?

    All I recall was Sion needing papers along with all the other nonhumans and that he should be escorted by a human everywhere he went.
     
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    So I was relistening to the books and I was wondering if AK's love for numerology and *some* consistency will show in how some unresolved quests are completed. Book 1 had the Imp oath and Book 8 has the resolution, Book 2 had the first bug bear attack and book 9 seems to be set up to deal with this resolution.

    Its possible Book 10 will deal with the catacombs/assassin's guild.
     
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    Nonhumans would naturally congregate to "their" part of the city, especially if persecuted. Just as they had a tavern that was essentially nonhumans only.
     
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    About the settlers. I think that Aleron infusing racial prejudice and slavery into the story was to set Ricther up as a savior of down trodden peoples. If Ricther had gone to the HM or recruited people from other areas they likely would only be fortune hunters with loyalties to other nations and people. That wouldn’t help Ricthers development at all. Ricthers “luck” (Alston’s Writing) places him in Yves as a great liberator of the oppressed with the freeing of the nonhumans. With Alerons fore sight or without it Ricther has gained a population of very loyal subjects. Now that he has established himself as small state others are fleeing to him for their salvation from their oppression. I personally do like this aspect of Ricthers world. I believe that in a real life situation it would have gone any other way. Ricther being so weak yet wealthy he would have had people stealing from him and out to kill him at every point. At this point in Ricthers development I would want to continue freeing prisoners from the Alliance and search out for nonhuman groups covertly in Yves. At some point later Ricther will need to increase his population by a good bit but he should always keep loyal vassals at a greater rate perhaps 10 to 1. That should allow Ricther some needed people that might not be loyal but not in a position to cause his village any problems. His greatest ability to increase his population is by integrating surrounding people’s that are in need of his protection and leadership. The Kinder were a great addition that he hasn’t realized as of yet. The lose dwarvin tribes that run kingless at this time will swell his ranks. That is if he unites them under a chosen leader by his choice and empowering the with the Axe. The Kobolds will likely add another 10 times their numbers when he reunites them under the the Great Khan. I don’t see anyway that Ricther won’t have the population he needs when the times arrive. I think Aleron has this.
     
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    I agree that might be the situation. I just don’t recall that being mentioned in the book.
     
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    Feeling a bit dark eh?

    Richter got lucky with the merchant, but in truth most merchants are as honest as the next person, which means whether they are honest depends on a combination of complex motivations, morals and of course its often situational. Human society functions because we are fundamentally social creatures prone to follow certain rules of "fairness". That's one reason people keep talking about fairness despite life being inheriently unfair, its part of the social mechanism. That does not mean we cannot break it, but its far less likely than media and fiction leads us to believe.

    The merchant did take Richter for a ride, as is customary with rich fools. He did not rob him, outside of "create unnecesary conflict" storylines the chance of him putting out a tail or taking the risk of becoming a bandit for a relatively small sum (by the standards of a large merchant family Richter has a bit of money, but he is not truly wealthy) is fairly small. Life isn't a godfather movie.

    Mama used Richter to get the nonhumans out of the city and to give Randolphus a way to escape the city.

    Randolphus used Richter to escape and only later assessed him as anything more than a tool.

    Krom admits he thought he could manipulate Richter into following his desires.

    The only important characters loyal to Richter when they founded the village was Sion, Terrod and Isabelle. The rest came gradually as Richter earned their loyalty.
     
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    Feeling Dark??

    Okay

    U

    Lost

    Me

    I’m not so sure what you mean by the merchant conversation and about fairness? Had I said something about the merchant?

    Fairness, media, fiction, social mechanisms, a God Father Movie????

    I you sure I’m feeling dark?

    And you think everyone was using Ricther?
     
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    Ya I don't think so on this. But it is a fun idea.
     
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    I still think that Mama and Randy have some kind of plan in regards to the things going on in Yves. I believe that’s why Randy made the comment we won’t even need a Grimoire. I believe that is the reason he wants to find a path way through the labyrinth to the Hall of Elemental Hunters. That would grant them access to the royal house hold of Yves. I could see Randy’s mysteries oath leading him back there to eliminate the Chamberlain and any others that are misguiding his nephew. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if someone in his household are making the nonhuman sacrifices.
     
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    Dang, you discovered a lot more about the story line than I did from that statement.. I just figured he meant richter could learn more spells than other people.
     
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    A Grimoire is are way for someone to have more Spells then they can normally Memorize/Learn, so he was most likely talking about the fact that Richter wouldn't need such an Item in order to keep Learning New Spells.
     
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    That’s just my presumptions. I just don’t see any way Randy’s secret oath doesn’t have something to do with his family history. The desire Randy has to find a way back to the Hall of elemental hunters is very strong. After all he made Ricther promise they would find the path. That does lead directly back to the Kong’s castle. The statement about we won’t even need a Grimoire just has to tie back into his desires somehow as he mumbled it out keeping the reason he would need a grimoire secret.

    That’s only my thoughts.
     




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