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Discussion in 'Debates & Discussions' started by Joe Schmoe, Feb 19, 2020.

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What's the next room Richter should make?

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    They aren't part of the mist village though, they are allies. I'm also not saying they have 100 people ready to fight, but that I doubt they have 100 people that are able to hunt the tier two monsters that now roam the lands surrounding the village WITHOUT taking serious loses of their own, even if they hunt in large warbands.
     
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    The HT is a 100 miles to the south. The reason I doubt village patrols would be looking for bugbears is that the village has had the protection of the mist for all the time they've been there and that barring a few episodes, no one has managed to breach it. They know that sending in scouts (without the mistbreaking salve) is basically an execution. They have no reason to expect the bugbears to have a counter for the mist that doesn't involve a level 30+ specialist of some sort, especially not since Richter never shared the existence of the salve with the villagers. The kindir know, but they also KNOW they already informed the village about the risk.
     
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    The Hearth tree is a higher level than the mist village. If I’m remembering correctly the monsters got stronger as he unlocked powers witch leads me to believe that the HT warriors can hold there own against the monsters in the same damn forest lol. Secondly allies fight together doubt they’ll say this is your home u defend it and more importantly a lot of them are part of the mist village because they bonded with they’re pixies. Pretty sure their leader Sion is like the Vice President now lol
     
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    richter told randy I have to meet with the kinder to find out how they can see in the mist. It was the whole reason he went to the village. Plus the kinder elder told him there was a few people still away from the village. I know these conversations weren’t expressly written out in the book but the fact that richter and the HM talked about favors I would have to assume he and randy talked about the possibility of someone finding out the secret of the mist. Heck it’s other settlement in the mist u think the kinder were the only ones to know
     
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    No they won't abandon the mist village.

    Poke was talking about the mist village sending out their own citizens to hunt these creatures down, to which I answer they have less than 100 people capable of doing that in large bands. Its also a factor that HM needs her army to defend her own settlement(s) against the bugbears, not the one settlement that the bugbears cannot reach anyway.

    Given the layout of the village defenses and how animals/monsters generally don't attack large settlements unless rabid, i do not see them as a serious threat to the village itself.
     
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    Could easily be. The other tribes would be trapped within the boundaries of their villages, but if they can forage and hunt underground it wouldn't cripple them completely. It would be a major hassle.
     
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    So the kinder knows of other settlements within the mist and can put in a good word for richter, but the other settlements who undoubtably are cool with the kinder within the mist empire who lived through other leaders of the mist village don’t know how to see in the mist. Yeah that’s it
     
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    The mist empire existed thousands of years earlier and even the kindir barely remembered some passed down recipe. Who is to say the other tribes diden't migrate to this area in the intervening millenia? Or even if their settlements have existed for that long, that such stories haven't long since faded into legend, with all accurate records being lost along the way?

    Its honestly more surprising that the kindir still maintain their knowledge, than it is for the other races to have long since forgotten.
     
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    You’re making assumptions just for the sake of it. It’s not surprising that the kinder remember how to see through the mist when they live there. As for whose to say they didn’t move there while the village wasn’t claimed, well the kinder said I’ll speak to the other tribes We’ve had bad leaders in the past so we’ll speak on your behalf... so I guess the book. I think the fact that the kinder said the mist popped back up so we figured someone took control of the land and had the salve means they weren’t as forgetful as u may think.
     
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    The fact that the kindir have somehow preserved their histories since the fall of the latest incarnation of the mist empire, does not make it any more likely for the other races to have accomplished the same feat. Kindir are renowned for being both incredibly loyal and completely scatterbrained. So basically they'd gladly lay down their life for yours, unless they have wandered off somewhere.

    Not sure where you get the "we've had bad leaders part", though the kindir do promise to make introductions if Richter will accept them as vassals. Also, what is this a response to?

    I never said the kindir were forgetful, I said it was more likely that they would have forgotten than it is for them to remember. The kindir even forgot the location of their own hall of kings after their kingdom finally collapsed a few centuries back.


    “Now do not start spouting that old nonsense,” Flitwalker admonished the woman.
    “We haven’t had a king since the old hall was lost centuries ago. What Lord Richter needs to know is that we will stand by our word.” He looked the chaos seed in the eye again, and earnestly stated, “We will.

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Predators: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 7) (Kindle Locations 18354-18356). Tamori Publications, LLC. Kindle Edition.

    So basically the kinder remember their old promises and very little else (that sounds remarkably like the kender from dragonlance). Even with that, one could be forgiven for making the assumption that the ghostly kindir king helped keep the old stories as they were.
     
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    “We are honored by your precious gift, and will honor you in turn with truth. Stories have been passed down about the cruelty of the Masters of the Mists. Throughout the generations, we were told to be wary of such capricious men of power. When the mists rose again, we sent out our strongest sons and daughters to observe you.


    Also says,

    “When the mists returned, I remembered the old tales my gammy told me. She made it clear that every kindir passing through Verget Kunig should know how to make it themselves in case they ran out. So that is what I did!”

    so yeah to assume they wouldn’t know how to function in the mist isn’t necessary clearly they remember plus they know of other settlements which would mean they probably would know too... but hey u may be right


     
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    At the very least they knew what the mist signified.

    Sidenote, the kindir have a king, and Richter is merely a lord, is he outranked by his own vassal?
     
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    Heck Elora is a queen, he’s kind of making a habit of it
     
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    MV militia is easily over 100 strong reference book 5 the bloodstone battle. Now add some new guys from freed slaves at least 130. Total number of citizens +- 700?

    Add sprites 300.. so with 400 dudes they Randy& Hisako could have power leveled the MV specialization to next lvl To get the Godly bonus.

    Would they find bugbear scouts? No.. would it be hard to get the beasts of lvl 40+? NO. at the time of this action MV would be for at least 2 days only with 2 powers awakened.. and after 4 powers came online the transformation to tier 2 beast would be gradual and slow..

    Tbe goal here is not to send lvl 1 bard to bunt lvl 50000 dragon. Its to just lvl the dungeon one more time for.bonus with max effort minimal risk.
    Probably bugbears would never be found.. still adition lvl for MV eould be an insane bonus to every citizen.
     
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    That it could. Given monster intelligence, maybe they could fool the alpha predators into entering the dungeon traps (smells, illusions, conveniently placed food, etc.)? Even if the traps are not powerful enough to kill them, they should hurt them significantly and might trap them, giving the lowlevel villagers easy kills :)

    I do not want to be that level 50 animal stuck in the sands getting pelted to death by level 1-10 villagers with slings (armor penetration make them ideal for taking on large creatures with natural armor), but sometimes sacrifices have to be made.
     
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    It's likely that if anyone discovers the BugBear Rangers and Scouts it likely to be the Kendir, they are very good at finding concealed things.
     
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    Their ambassador will mention in passing that he never knew the mist village had decided to share the salve with the bugbears.
     
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    This hits the nail on the head. Now that there is a barracks the guards need to be placed in teams and start farming the dungeon for both experience/leveling and loot. The monster levels on the first floor are 8-17. Most of the village warriors are in that range. Currently loot has a plus 50% generation. This will quickly increase the village coffers as well as the overall level of the troops. Hisako's sprites should be taking advantage of this as well. Finally the dungeon is currently at plus 40% resource growth. There should be a team looking for resources. A higher level team could be assembled...there are at least 3 professed warriors and a couple of professed mages that could hit the lower levels.
     
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    That's an average range for the monster levels if I remember it right? In any case, with good gear and training they should be able to take on the creatures of the first level. Might want to skip the elite team for now and instead send the strongest out on babysitting duty with teams of noobs. That should increase their survival rates significantly, though the high-level adventurer would be earning a pittance of exp.
     
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    Yeah...what I had not considered but it works here is Terrod is a war leader. He should focus on outside of the dungeon to develop that. He could work towards power level(the one that let xp be focused). Also the professed warriors should be trained in war leader. Part of the perks of barracks level 3 is training war leaders.
     
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