Land contracts

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  1. Dragon

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    We've talked about Richter running out of money to pay his villagers and it struck me, what about all his unused lands around the village?

    If he divides it up into housing and planting plots he could sell say 10-year leases on the land, with various conditions attached as well as an option to extend in the future at market price, an option they can use themselves or sell to raise cash. Assuming market prices increase a lot and land is at a premium, it could be very profitable.

    That's easy money here and now for Richter and it puts the burden of building homes and farms over on his populace instead of it being a government matter. The government only really needs to plan out roads and such ahead of time.


    He could also gamble with some of the contracts, that should send his gambling skill soaring.
     
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    And potentially his Wealth plummeting.
     
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    Can't gamble without something to lose. The land contracts wouldn't be essential, rather they are a way for the kingdom to earn cash until an economy is up and running. Once they've build homes and farms, property taxes and income taxes is how the country will make money.

    Say he makes 200-300 land contracts. Enough that every family can get a plot of their own. If on average each plot is 200 square meters, that's 40.000 - 60.000 square meters that have been rented out.

    Meanwhile Richter has a claim on 314 miles of territory. As 1 sq mi = 2,589,988.11 sq m that means has 813.256.232 square meters of terrain.

    He can afford to gamble 100.000 square meters of farmland and housing plots away if it means power levelling his gambling skill. If there is one thing Richter is wealthy in, its land.
     
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    Dungeon tax
     
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    Yeah, that's also going to earn a few silvers.

    But Richter and his heavies taking out an entire lair earned a couple gold at in cash and loot, which had to be divided amongst everyone there. Even if he takes half of what adventurers make, its probably not enough to pay the government bills.

    Plus, I am a big believer in fairness. If billy has to pay 20% of his 10 gold yearly income, then so should Oswald.
     
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    I'd start with a market, a black market, and auction house, Cassino etc... there are many ways to earn paid wages hehe

    Also any simple sale of produced goods should offset any salaries by approxt 10 to 1.
    F.E. enchanted rings... we have blueprints, material, crafters etc.. so in total even 10 rings of 2 gold a piece is paying wages of like 50 drones for a year. maybe.

    Still you know who also wants to get Paid? Bugbear army wants get paid hehe

    Just send Randy to steal some shit.. I hardly doubt they will have anyone who can smell out a 120 yo master snaky sneaky... or just Brjte force with Richto... Im seeing a few k gold from them as easy income, esp if we go liberate them of their chash when they go for the offensive
     
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    Once transport costs, salaries, materials and so on are accounted for, i doubt they'll be looking at more than a 20-30% profit.

    Its just not worth the amounts people think it is. Sure Krom has an advantage with the forge, but he is competing with other journeymen and adepts that have unlocked various talents that give unique advantages to their products or have subskills that give them an edge such as dense forging or just enough of a level advantage that their skill bonus makes up for the difference.

    What is it Richter's wares bring that none of the others do?

    The bonus against shields? The enchantments we know are out there, even if most smiths only have a handful?
     
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    Depends on wares... f.e. Books.. so expenses are time, & like basic magical paper and inck.
    Grains or food sure wont bring a ton of profit

    Still transport might take 30-90% of additional cost so lessbprofit for us.. and for generic goods we should be looking at minimum 50% profit margin.. risk is super high here. probbly 100% margin minimum
     
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    I think that dedicated adventuring would pay a ton of bills for Richter because of how much he can, and does, pull in. And that’s before the boat goes out, the traders come back, the portal to the allies goes up, etc. And the dungeon tax should net him a bunch of money.
     
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    Sliding scale of Dungeon Tax should be initiated, those Sworn to Richter get the lowest Dungeon Taxes, followed by MV Residents and Vassels (those who just live in Richters Villages), then good MV Allies (possible exception of certain Sprites like Hearth Mother, Yossi, ect, who get a better deal), then other MV Allies, Trading Partners and outsiders that have Joined the Most Villages own Dungeon Guild, and outside Dungeon Guilds and Adventurers.
    Some exceptions can be made to the Taxes, like Favoured Allies, Adventurers and Trading Groups might be charged less, or people from unfavoured or combative or enemy groups get charged more.
     
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    Richter is only paying them through the end of the first year...then it becomes an open economy. Will that be a mess...oh yeah. But now that Richter can put hundreds of doses of potion of clarity per vial that should easily support the population.
     
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    He could even subsidize the clarity vials to sell to his people (and maybe cheap to allies) while selling at auction to the rest of the region.
     




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