Litch assault. One more time..

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  1. PokemonThug

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    Litch assault(or what would you do better??):
    Likely success rating for ideas: [C-..A++]. C- the worst likely hood of 0-5%; A++ 95-100% best chance. B++~66% chance etc..

    A++:
    Kindr potion for main Stat increase depending on drunkenness lvl.(+X to STR, +X to AGI etc..)
    Super easily usable, if you have time to decide when the battle starts and how. Don't be braindead about how you plan to use it.
    Kindr are close, no reason why we cant recreate this potion in Dragons cauldron.
    Also seem like the Kindr should have at least a few bottles, and they are our allies, & this is war.

    Shields:
    For Mauler, a bunch of arrows/spells have slowed him down upon entry and until reaching the undead lines he was delayed, thus adding to the ally casualties.
    Also we could move under the cover of the mauler as a shield wall more or less.
    For mist workers, static ones, shields for everyone.
    Mist worker carries a shield through portal -> places it -> goes back to carry more stuff.

    Magic shield created by some mage at least. Lets block a few poisoned arrows which hit sprite necks in the original attack.
    Furthermore Why not to have additional few mana supports who would channel the magic to main mage- for shield sustainability?
    We don't need a lot of time, just 20-30s to secure and move away from the landing site.

    Belt of Spell stealing:
    wtf.. I mean yoshi could use it.. and in lvl 10 he could use its spells to temporarily distract strong undead and get an opening. Without taking a banshee scream in his face.

    Really strong beast scroll.
    Cast Akkaton evolution on the summoned beast(now its duration is for two battles lol) too.
    Eyes of the Death god was an error.

    A-
    Convince vamps to join, they respect power.
    So with chaos magic and 10 tailed beast(evolved, not the basic one). Vamps will be impressed.
    & with 20+ living from the strike force, undead Nien, maybe we could convince them to join us, because they would see a much more stronger force. |Worst case stronger negotiation. F.E. The 10 tailed beast is as strong as Mauler, can kill both mages.
    Not what we had was: two barely standing dudes and Richto.
    Richto: "Heyaa we goona go kill the litch, wanna join?"
    Vamps: "...no"
    I mean would you join those three? lol

    Kindr truesilver slingers:
    Use Kindr schematics to make a few Sligshots lvl 4.
    And take some of their best shooters. I bet true silver bullets will distract quite a few high lvl undead.

    B++
    Beyan:
    Rezz strike force dead to fight again, didn't though about it did you now! And saying that litch could take away them(then why the litch can just take over everyone, investigate this before attack).. who cares.. we would use them only to get to lvl 10. Because after taking lvl 10 we had from 40 attacking dudes, only 2 alive and ~38 dead. So who will fight the vamps if the charizma gambit would not work?
    Now undead MV dudes can bring back other dead, can fight, be used as human shields, they do not die from a little bit of poison. And a great distraction for higher lvl undead in lvl 10 of the Mausoleum, thus saving up to 50% of the attack force.
    Rezz Nien, double casting, potions, ring of summoning etc.. we would have the strongest, STRONGEST close quarters fighter in the attack force. By a wast margin. Stronger than yoshi.
    And he would be the first to attack, suck all the magic bolta, arrows, distract shit.. I bet we will still have his head for the vamps, or just make him bow to them. same effect, I'd argue even better.
    When the undead strike force dudes will come back, release the undead magic, and resurrect them using liferoot. A dead body can be used hard in many ways.

    B:
    There is no slime:
    Investigate the portal to litch domain using mistworkers and 1 min return policy.
    portal opens mist worker goes in and after 10 steps goes back..
    Repeat this for 10 minutes..
    then send summoned creatures.. latrine dudes..

    B-
    Wind daemon gambit.
    A healer dude, strong one who could cast some healing and cure poison.. and carry the wounded/dead back..

    C+
    MaulerThrower:
    Mauler throwing rocks.. boulders, using a tree club.
    We can and should make a backpack for the mauler that while moving he could with one hand hold a shield and with another throw a few stone boulders at the clustered enemies..
    If this is viable.. we can easily test it, before the deployment.

    I always though of using the mauler as a trebuchet to attack cities, fortresses etc.. throwing big stone blocks. Try to protect yourself with a Magic shield vs 5 ton stone block.

    C
    Bag the Litch:
    if at any time litch gets disabled just shove his ass into the bag of holding.
    Take his staff. Ransack the citadel.. run. then return through the portal.
    Or maybe just his head. and close the bag?? lol

    Entire attack plan on the litch was random, why did he use the coin then the banshee scream?
    How about using the banshee scream & the coin & trying to either cut his head off or hand holding the staff.. or stab him in the head. cut both of his hands and stick a sword in his mouth..
    How will he cast?
    Hmm no summoned creatures in that fight for some reason.. creatures were good enough for DeathKnight and Nien, but not for the litch..
    Could Hisako not cast her summoned angel spell, and send him too through the portal?!

    What could be done better? How?


    P.S.
    Richter landed in the hole on top of the Maulers body. Should he have survived that without the Shell?
    If mauler lands first with our superstrong Richter on top, mauler would be like a pillow.
    Should he not survive this?

    But the most important part is that if Richter rode the Mauler to the bottom, his map will know the location of the Mauler and the shell, and the Black Ice.
    So it should be relatively easy to find the Maulers body and the labyrinth's reward. Maybe take a hunting dog who tracks by scent and some creatures who can borrow and dig.
     
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    lmao. That battle really upset you, didn't it?
     
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    yep it did, especially Richter not buying the 9 tail beast scroll for this battle.
    However Richter, did the mission he killed the Litch, destroyed the statue and killed the army plus made friends with our Dear Michael and L.
    Also he was distracted..
     
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    I'm not even going to touch most of your post, because you clearly have put more thought into it than either Richter or I.

    As far as Richter surviving based on riding the Mauler down? I doubt it would save his life unless the mauler is built like a pillow. Remember he is weighed down with armor as well meaning that he is landing with quite a bit of speed and momentum. I do agree though that the map should show the location of his gear or at least the point where he landed relative to his current location. Richter would likely need to take a full war party back with him though to deal with the ichorpedes.
     
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    Eyes of a Death God was a better long term pick for Richter than the Scroll of the Nine Tail. And based on the fact that he survived, it seems like he may have made the right call, although possibly at the expense of the lives of his allies. (RIP Caulder)
     
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    Oh we all fail in our rational thinking when we are down... I don't think after Hemans betray Richter had an especially easy time with careful planing..
     
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    Not today Waterhobbit.
     
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    Let's put it this way. At the start of book 8 he still has Eyes of a Death God as it is a permanent change. Had he chosen the Scroll of Nine Tails and used it against the Lich, he would not have either at the start of book 8.
     
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    Oh my goodness, Water is throwing fire this morning! Lmao
     
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    Well you know how I see it. The eyes are the irreplaceable longterm choice that can likely be upgraded, the ninetail a one-use joke Richter cannot control (i mean come on, its taken straight from Naruto, and he sure as heck couldn't control that thing just by using the scroll).

    At best it works, it summons an unbeatable monster, and the enemy immediately decides to retreat thereby ending the battle and banishing the ninetails.
     
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    Does scroll copy not exist in this series?
     
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    Likely be upgraded, What do you base this on?

    Naturo Nine-tails would have swallowed that energy ball and shot it in a useful direction.

    Enemy is at home base, which is where they would retreat to.
     
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    Lmao, you're 'pok'ing the bear now. Lmao!
     
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    Considering the Power of the Entity that it would Summon I would suspect that Copying it would not just be very, very Difficult but likely impossible at the Level of anybody in the MV, and not mention failing would destroy the Scroll before it could be used and likely also prove to be very dangerous.
     
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    Maybe maybe not. We will never know now.
     
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    The fact that they are stolen straight from Death note with some minor alterations? Shinigami Eyes

    I suppose it isn't a given that they can be upgraded. I still give that a higher chance of being useful, than the idea of using naruto's version of the Ninetailed foxdemon. Kurama
    Karuma really did not like being enslaved (especially not to be used solely as a weapon) and he is an intelligent being as well, which means there are different rules for their summoning and what they can do.
     
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    If the Ten Tailed fox deamon doesn't work, evolve it to ten tails. :p
     
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    Firstly my young Waterhobbit, we use Arkhanhans evolution on the 9 tailed beast and make it 18 tail beast!
    Secondly the evolution increases the length-of the summoned creatures existence to two battles.
    So at the start of book 8 he would have the beast still. Either as a summon-able token or as an existing being until next battle(2nd battle) would occur. And during the waiting period to the next battle which could be from [1second .. to X million years] creature could dig latrines, or tunnels..
     
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    Lol 18 tailed fox, its already hard enough for 9 tailed characters to walk XD
     
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    If only they weren't out of fox fire.. so many uses.

    HM could have used her little birds summoning trick to make it rain on the undead in the initial rush. Wouldnt take much mana on her part and the undead are weak against fire.
     




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