Litch assault. One more time..

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    Zar is an adept of earth it seems. I was sure he was a master :(

    three village Mages were also present: Sumiko, Zarr and Quasea.

    Kong, Aleron. The Land: Predators: A LitRPG Saga (Chaos Seeds Book 7) (Kindle Locations 22617-22618). Tamori Publications, LLC. Kindle Edition.

    Randolphus isn't a mage he is a rogue with a spy specialisation. An adept like Zarr is going to be more useful due to his profession. Besides, this ignores the fact that Randolphus

    Isn't in the military, he signed up for a civilian role. Putting him on the frontlines against his stated desires is a douchebag move that would effectively unmask him before the village as a dangerous half-undine, something he was driven out of his home for. Which means that shit might well get really ugly and personal.

    Not only that, it would put him and the village at risk. Yves has to be looking for him after he escaped that little trap they had him in, staying obscure keeps them from taking an interest in the village over him (leading to them realising the extent of village resources. 3 cores are worth moving a small army over) or using his presence to justify a war.

    Besides, killing undead isn't the goal here, destroying the statue at minimal cost is. In the cold calculations of war the village can replace the entire raid party easier than they could Randolphus or Zarr, adepts and masters are very rare, and unlike personal level its difficult to powerlevel them. There is a reason the Zarr stays close to the entrance portal.
     
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    I'm on a reread, just got past the point where he chose eyes of a death god over the Ninetails. With the advantage of hindsight, I think there is a scenario where taking the Ninetails might have given a long term advantage equal to the eyes. It's possible that the Ninetails would have allowed him to get through the battle without losing the Mauler. Just thinking about everything that happened, if the ninetails could have taken the place of the void mauler, then richter may have had scion, yoshi, and a mauler to attack the litch at the end. He may have even had a strong enough showing to convince the two vampires to fight instead of just leave. That could have allowed them to murk the litch and escape before the explosion.

    I know Richter even said going into the fight that he didn't want to bring the mauler back because he couldn't tame it again.

    However, that doesn't really seem to be the case to me. When he tamed it the first time he had an effective skill level of 84 (after blood crystal)and the mauler was 93. Now, after the boost to his skill, he had an effective level of 65ish i think. He also should have several measures of blood crystal left. After the litch battle, his effective level went even higher, probably close to 70 now.

    Tame lasts 40 hours and he can cast it every 8 hours, so he would theoretically get 3-4 tries to tame before resorting to a dose of blood crystal, which would give him an effective skill level over 100.

    Each time he successfully tames the mauler, its effective level drops, making it easier to tame, and his skill level will rise quickly for taming such a powerful beast.

    So the theory is he could have had a tamed mauler instead of the eyes. Im sure the eyes will be useful, but i would argue that a one beast army would be better.

    Biggest possible downside is the magic of tame cant sustain the mauler so it would have to stay in the dungeon.. that would still be fine because he could use it to clear the dungeon every day and powerlevel villagers. It could also accompany him into the labryinth and get him awesome loot.. and we know it xan survive outside the dungeon for the duration of a battle at least, so it could be used in defense of the village from armies.


    Another downside though is if yoshi was still there, he may have gotten the bonus core token instead of richter. Depends if Richter got it because he was the remaining war leader, or if it was because his soul familiar was the one to trigger the event.
     
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    I’m split on the nine tails vs new eyes thing. Sure, having the mauler in the fight vs the lich would be a huge help (especially if he forced the evolution) and probably would have saved more lives of those assaulting to where the vampires were. I doubt they’d help if it was still around but that’s a solid maybe.

    I wouldn’t have kept it in the dungeon because I think that could piss off the dungeon (or it would get attacked until it died).

    And all of this is before we get to the fact that the new eyes are probably key in a future novel for Richter.

    Really good point about the core, though. He will need it more than the sprites will.
     
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    Who said Yoshi and HM diden't get plenty of hefty rewards for the lich battle, the goblin battle they started and even helping Richter reestablish the pixie race? The core Token was Richter's reward, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for HM or Yoshi to have gotten one as well.

    I have a suspicion that the HT settlement may have leveled offscreen at some point. I haven't gone through the books but it seemed bigger to me last time Richter visited than how it was described in the first books.
     
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    Good point. They could have gotten some really neat things.

    Is the gigantic tree from a special seed or a core? Or both combined? Did the hearth mother ever say she has no core buildings?
     
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    The Hearth Tree did come from a seedcore.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Additionally the tree gets some kind of growth power from the rulers path.. at least the HM implies this, when Richter needs to select his own rulers path after building the town center, but Richter can’t see it and we dont rly know the real properties.
     
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