Litch is dead. By Final Death.

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    Why? Original quest said to kill the Litch. Bonus quest objective was to give Litch the final death.
    • Mausoleum is gone.
    • Killed by the black Sword who Steals Souls lol
    • Exiles Statue is gone, so no help form him.
    • Parasitic Eldrich magic would slowly destroy any mage.. now even more so even if Litch was reborn..
    So Litch is Dead as Dead.
     
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    Liches can come back from the dead, but the lich's Phylactery was likely at his stronghold so he'd have a safe spawn to rebuild his body at that no one can get to unless they know the route to it. Hence when he dies after the stronghold is destroyed, he is fucked.
     
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    The bonus is pretty specific, so I would have to agree it is gone... But what would happen if you commune with it?...
     
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    Well here is the Conundrum my Dearest Doctor Wat... Drago.
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    Say Litch creates 12 or a unknown number of Phylacteries. And the said 12 numbered from 1.. each is:
    1. Buried in a random hole somewhere in a desert. say 1,5km deep.
    2. Dropped in a heavy stone into a deepest pit in the ocean
    3. Enchanted to be invisible and floating ~ 30km somewhere in the air, and phylactery is super small like a tennis ball..
    4. Just open a portal to any random fay realm and bury it there in the ground somewhere..
    5. Portal it to one of the orbiting moons...
    6. Put it in a mithril golem and send it to the deepest pits of the earth. Same can be done with hidden vaults all over the place.
    7. If rockets would exist this thing would be half way to milky way galaxy by now on some random apolo 12 like probe. you get the stolen idea of other geniuses(not mine). Super tiny chance of finding it in a random location. Well no chance at all.
    So with multiple possibilities its not unlikely the Litch would be able to resurrect. Not Unless he had only a single Phylactery. That was either hidden in the Mausoleum.. Or the Statue. Which seems to be the case.
    Also Richter has gotten the massive bonus. For Killing the Litch and giving him the final death and killing the Statue..

    What I am saying Drago is that if Litch was a rational thinker. There would be near impossible to kill him. 12 parts of ones soul... kill one and another wakes up in a different continent.. and Litch is immortal too.
    imprisoning him tho for eternity is a totally different matter. If he does not die.. he does not resurrect.

    Still now the Black Ice has eaten part of Litch'es soul.. so it could seance the remaining "parts" and want to consume them(Being Tier 2 and all). Also a reborn Litch would not have a mausoleum and would be greatly weaker..
     
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    wow f**k... this is mindblowing... wow.. you did it again.. wow

    I mean you would get secrets of millennia..or more.. You would get weakness info on the Exiles.. Beyan right here gets a teacher!

    Litch knows the locations of all of his secret treasure vaults! and all of his adversaries! And the history of the mists..
     
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    The lich has one soul and it is bound to his one phylactery. The whole lich thing, at least in dnd, starts with a ritualistic suicide where the magic user kills himself while binding his soul to the phylactery, after which he reanimates his corpse.

    He could have thrown it in a random hole, but why would he do that when he has a hidden fortress a mile underground where he can hide it inside a core mauselum in a closed off room? He even has an army numbering in the tens of thousands as well as powerful exile site nearby. That cavern has to have some insanely powerful anti scrying wards as none of the exile worshipper hunting organisations (meaning every single non-exile worshipping church or cult in the land, as well as probably a few secular organisations) found it.

    Out there any lucky fool could stumble on it or be guided to it by someone like imp. Zero protection other than anonymity.

    I bet you something as powerful as an eldritch lich's phylactery can be traced from far away by people that specialize in exterminating undead creatures or eldritch power users. Only takes one moronic but powerful white knight out to save the world - whether it wants to be saved or not - to f**k the lich over.
     
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    I'm not quoting D&D. I'm quoting harry potter. Voldemort has made multiple phylacteries(smrt).
    Sure you have an army.. few can kill that and your phylactery, its most likely a another army, Exiles wrath, Daemons, Courts, Maybe blood cabal... some lucky guy.. basically everyone
    But this is a possibility I'd say 50% you go out with you guys boom, basilisk alliance gets pissed off and goes to war with you. they have 100k you have 15k dudes... you run to your mausoleum.. and die there. your phylactery gets destroyed and you die.

    now if you would have had spare ones.. far away in random places.. it does not matter. Weather and army, some Exile, Deamons, lucky dude kills you... you resurrect. having a single point of failure and assuming it wont fail is optimistic and lazy. You better pump all your points into luck then hehe.
    F.E. MV could have just dropped a massive bomb before going in through the portal, like a really massive(building size, use mauler to shove it in). and accidentally destroyed 1/3 of mausoleum.. with the phylactery.

    Hmm maybe even Richto could off the Litch with his Assassination PoP spell 2500 dmg.. but prob Litch would just send the dmg to his minions..
     
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    Phylactery's and Horcrux's are similar in many ways but not the same thing, you can only have one Phylactery but you can have many Horcrux, both have upsides and downsides the other doesn't. Plus Voldermort wasn't technically a Lich, if he had been he wouldn't have needed outside help to rebuild his Body it would have happened automatically by itself, plus he wasn't really an Undead either, more of a Parasitic Soul Spirit thingy.
     
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    Which was one of the things that made him so incredibly dangerous while at the same time being someone to pity. Or if someone is so inclined, to mock for his foolish desecration of his own soul and the mental instability that followed.
     
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    Not sure.. seemed pretty savvy until baby potter happen. After baby.. it went to sh$t. Also not sure how much did Voldy wanted to really win the war. It was more like some sort of fun game.
    Resurrected version/revived/ maybe even original soul at least the initial one was kinda dependent on the vampirism of unicorn blood. So There was a plethora of different problems.

    Don't think splitting ones soul is that bad in general.. However if in such condition you get offed by baby and then get hooked on unicorn blood. Yeah.. this is really not great lol.
     
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    Yes and no. Most people who interacted with him considered him a ruthless psychopath. He was that way from the day he left the orphanage.

    He grew unstable by shattering his soul, with each part broken off being part of his identity, memories and foundation.

    The fragment that broke off and entered Harry was just the final nail in Voldemort's coffin.


    Not only that, but everyone who isn't swallowed by a dementor is basically ensured eternal life. Damaging your ticket to eternal life....
     
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    Never thought about this in such a way.. so baby potter sucked out and absorbed +-50% of Voldies soul(1/24 to be precise) lol
    so the first initial iteration of Voldy probably did not even die as much as was "diminished" and absorbed/castrated by potter. Then that fucked up soul recovered in 10 yo or so and then got hooked up on unicorn blood and became an addict hahahahaha
    this is priceless. In the end we had a battle royal between the baby potter/50%voldies soul vs 50%voldies soul/unicorn blood addict. lolz.
     




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