"Mama's" caravan?

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How many new villagers will the caravan have?

  1. Less than 100

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  2. 100 to 250

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  3. 250 to 500

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  1. Dragon

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    Maybe. But wouldn't something like that be expensive? Its an apprenticeship contract.
     
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    A signet ring is most likely a magical ring granting authority and authenticity to the holder to seal any contract. I say that because even their money grants that magical authenticity. I could see Ricther using that as payment for lots of contracts including purchasing blueprints. That would definitely lead to some major enragements. Ricther only needs to use a unknown third party to make it happen. I still like the idea of buying war time materials in the Counts name to create a shortage of those items. Enough to make the king curious anyway. That ring could cause that Count more grief and anger then anyone has seen.
     
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    He is only a count. A midtier noble.

    You expect a lot from a man who lives in a small corner of a realm larger than the entire 600.000 square mile forest of Nadria.
     
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    You call The Count small???

    Really?

    Counts are called Counts because they were Lords over counties. They were often over multiple counties.

    Counts also had the authority to raise armies. Some often fought their own private wars.

    This particular Little Guy in his little corner of the world is the best friend of the King of Yves. This is the guy whom has turned the King down the wrong path. As Randy said he has the Kings ear even though the previous King wouldn’t have stood for the man being in his court.
     
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    Well relatively speaking a count isn't that powerful. If they have territories similar to a biggish british count, thats around 4000 square miles aat most. 10 times Richter's current territory or something close to a circle with 35.68 miles in radius. Equal to a level 4 (3.5) mist settlement assuming Richter does not find a way to boost the size of his domain.


    I think he will once he starts really connection with his domain. Possibly using the tea? The mistlord evolution would have brought that connection for free.

    I remember the count being called a crony, not a best friend. Perhaps a more powerful crony (i did not think counties were that big) than i thought initially.
     
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    Though we do know there are a lot of dukedoms in the kingdom of Yves.
     
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    Settlement level I thought would take care of the boundary increase. I feel like the tea would help him with his village quests/ communing with the ley line energies like Futen does. Still super helpful though and he definitely needs to start drinking it once or twice a day. Also mist cloaks.
     
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    Who would have thought with everything that's gone on that settlement level would be the biggest stumbling block. The Lich fight, Nein, the Goblin battle....and we are still a ways away from settlement level 2. Geez.
     
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    I thought the boundaries were basically covered by the Confusing Mist?

    The confusing mist being powered by the PoP would have expanded with the activation of the new powers.
     
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    Richter has awakened the pop not leveled his village. While that may open other options for increasing his domain, nothing has been said to that effect. Its also possible strengthening his bond with it will allow it to grow larger.


    This sounds like more of a bound to the land kind of thing. Commune with the powers, strengthen the bond between Master and POP. I do not think that the limitation of one POP to a Master is arbitrary, I think it means you are supposed to grow more attuned to your one pop, having more pop's would make that impossible as to grow more attuned to one would mean growing less attuned to another.

    One reason Mist lord was the far superior evolution is that it would likely have allowed Richter to attune to the land very rapidly. The only drawback was Richter couldn't leave, but 300 square miles is enough space for a lifetime. And frankly, while Blackie might not like it, with the mistlords powers and larger array of mist spells including summons, Richter could have turned the mist lands into a death trap. Homefield is the best place for an offensive campaign.

    Futen interfaces with the pop, but its likely he unable to commune with the land.
     
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    Later tier ups almost assuredly would have opened the possibility of being able to leave his lands as well. Even with a time limit (1-2 years seems reasonable for a Tier 3 or possiby even just working out a way to do it as a tier 2) he could scout for other PoPs with his same conflux, set up relations and portals and what not to effectively expand his travel-able area. With the Dungeon he was in no danger of not having enough XP to Tier up again. Maybe one day we'll get an alternate verse or meet a chaos seed or just some other PoP master who chose this path instead.
     
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    I am hopeful that Drags argument about the non humans in Yves is correct. That would mean over 50% of Mamas caravan will be highly skilled laborers. So should we expect around 25% of them to be professionals?
    I expect that mamas caravan will at least double the size of the current MV population. Ricther is about to be one happy camper!
     
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    Because of richters new luck stat and temporal effect, i figure mama’s caravan is going to bring MV an army of unwilling allies.

    the caravan will get through and the trailing army of yves will ‘accidentally’ run strait into the bug bear army.
     
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    Possibly, although there's a big risk that the BugBears might Follow the Caravan to the Mist Village and so find its location earlier then otherwise.
    It's also possible that the Plague Squad might use the Caravan to try and find Richter? If course if they do then the Plague Squad might be the ones that bump into the BugBears. Worse case scenario would that after the initial fight that they start working together, although I think considering the probable arrogance of the Plague Squad that that might be unlikely but still possible.
     
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    I dunno.... I don't think the plague squad would work with ANYONE, they seem more to me like a special forces strike team that has a target and will move straight for it, blowing through anything or anyone in their way. Just don't seem like the "gather allies" kinda folk.
     
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    Was not part of the deal Richter made with Nexus to allow Tamitu in the caravan that he/the other Nexus for the Yves area would guide it so that it arrives safely? Btw not literally guide it. It was one of the main reasons Richter agreed in the first place. I think its already very likely the bugbears know where the MV is. Those scouts that where gathering herbs where Alma was killing the Ankeg in the epilogue stated they now had enough and it had been improved. The basilisk alliance has to have professional scouts or rangers.
     
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    Yeah they improved it they can see what 200 yards now? That’s a hell of a lot better then Ricther 60’ dark vision.
     
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    Exactly and the MV has no where near enough troops to patrol the area properly. The can protect the village from wandering monsters but a scout or ranger with stealth abilities not wanting to be detected? No, BA knows where the MV is and where the dungeon is.
     
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    Many of the first colonists were highly skilled. Few were professionals.

    Might be as simple as professionals being orders of magnitude better cash cows than a "mere" journeyman crafter so they are guarded proportionally better?

    Of course there are also plenty of nonhumans that haven't been allowed to leave the capital, but they sure as heck wanted to leave. Then there are the families, children, elders and so on.

    I'd expect a max of 10% have the skill levels to profess. Hard to say how many will be professed already.
     
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    This is confirmed in the epilogue of book 8. The mist village is known, they know about the Dungeon and so on.

    They should not know about the meadow, the corebuildings, the celestial pixies, the meidon sprites, the quickening, or the two additional walls blocking off easy access to the meadow. Those are much more defensible than the outer walls.

    Hard to tell how much they know about, other than the outer trench and the watchtowers.
     
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