Settlement points

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  1. Captain BlackJack

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    I would rather see him get the dungeons heart first. Then challenge the king for his PoP offering him the dungeon back in return.
     
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    I think Richter had a cap on how long he could keep them because he lacked the foundations for generating them. A little similar to how he kept losing diplopoints due to lacking a town hall, except the powers gave him 24 hours to spend his points.
     
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    Well something will definitely happen with that Dungeon Mastery eventually. Its one way Richter could seriously hurt Yves without becoming a known enemy of Yves. Unlike POP's I don't think there is a limit on how many Dungeon's you can master, so he could take it for himself and hide behind his scry protection to avoid being magically uncovered by Yvesian diviners or seers. The banks failed to track Richter, so Yves doesn't stand a chance.
     
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    Also very possible
     
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    I totally agree.
     
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    That’s WhAt I am saying!

    Take that dungeon!

    All gold problems solved!!

    How many years has it been since they have had a dungeon master or keeper?

    Where has all the dungeon treasury tax been going?

    My thinking is Randy’s family isn’t getting it. That’s why the set up a tax station outside the dungeon.

    Those guards wouldn’t be posted there for nothing.
     
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    Oooooooo, hell ya. I didn't even think about that! I bet your pretty close to what will happen. I mean why write in that the dungeon isn't claimed if that won't come up later.
     
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    I think in time we will find settlement points are capable of being spent on anything within ones domain.

    I expect that the Hearth mother has some quantity of settlement points that she has been banking on. The so called “socialist communist” ways not lending the Sprites to earn or save gold I find extremely bogus. Albeit part of the story. I don’t believe that the Hearth Mother will have the gold, silver, platinum, and all the extremely rare resources she needs for her end of the portal. I do suspect that she will be given a dungeon entrance in her domain. Then she will be capable of granting the use of settlement points on that entrance. Perhaps they will both be given as gifts and recognized by the land itself. If not where will the Sprites gain all the recorded wealth and resources needed?

    On the opposite hand I can see a Dwarves kingdom with a horde of treasures common and rare.
     
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    Probably the Forest Elf Kingdom as well.
     
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    still easy to go around this problem.. just exit through a different dungeon using nodes.. no need to pay tax exiting a dungeon +-1 week away from Yves..
     
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    You missed the understanding of what I was saying because Shout didn’t READ.

    If He has A spherical portal built with a barbican at every entrance he could use dungeon transport to the dungeon entrance then use the greater spherical portal.

    Not the Node road.

    Ricther having the barbican maned would prevent everyone from using the spherical portal. Others could walk around it with permission and find fight their way through the dungeon to the node road.
     
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    You assume that an entrance to the dungeon can be placed like 300 km form the dungeons location, which does not seem possible. I rest my case!
     
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    Does it say anywhere that you can't? If not then aren't you assuming as well, which would mean that your case isn't really rested.
     
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    The Hearth Tree is only 3 days walk. The HT being a plaice of power and a major settlement it will ramp up the dungeon points.

    It does say the dungeon can create inter dimensional spaces now. That should allow it to connect to far off places with no real tunnels. That’s how they connect to other locations perhaps even in other dimensions Like the labyrinth. It also allows for them to connect to other dungeons in the land. Thus you have node roads.
     
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    Solid points Cap...Bottom line is she said that she could make it work. So who cares how as long as she does. The better question is how long will it take? With SP's it clearly will be as soon as she gets back to HT. Now in book 8 she was sticking around to see if Richter survived and keep an eye on Sion since this would have been the 2nd friend that died for him.
     
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    You know I haven’t thought of her staying around because of that.

    Sion did have plenty of issue prior with his friend being killed. He knows Ricther can come back but that doesn’t mean he always will. I just didn’t think about his possible anxieties as a character. That could cause him to do things rashly. That would add to the story with building tensions and his reactions.
     
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    Yeah in the portion where they were sitting around and the powers awoke Sion is just kinda there stroking Alma's scales and he's thinking at least he will do everything he can to save Alma since there is nothing he can do for Richter. Remember when Richter was chased by the rock giant and ended up in Kobold caves? Sion was out looking for him. The same will happen here if HM does not step in. The heir should not be at risk while the master is at risk.
     
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    The sprites are what a marxist would call primitive communists.

    A less politically minded person than a Marxist would realize the sprites are communally oriented hunter-gatherers without a need for buzzwords. They likely have a bartering system combined with the kind of social responsibility and favor systems we know from our world in areas and timeperiods where money was either very scarce or unknown. Modern societies work on the same principles, except instead of owing each others favors or bartering we use money to get goods and services. Well the favor system is alive and well but you know what I mean.

    In other words, while the sprites may not have taken a lot of gold in the past from Richter (they are starting to change that) there was an expectation that Richter and the mist village would reciprocate for favors done with equally valuable favors.

    As for a HT treasury, of course they have one. The sprites need to deal with the rest of the world occasionally.
     
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    Yeah but I feel like the Hearth Trees treasury is full of useful and rare commodities that can be used at their discretion. You really don’t use gold for potions weapons or food. Not to say that the Hearth Morhers treasury can’t be converted into gold. I for one will be highly disappointed in this series if the HM has all of the resources to build a portal.

    And everyone is always mumbling that’s too much that’s over kill that’s to OP...........

    Yet we expect the HM to have more change then the bank next door.
     
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    As far as I can tell HM is not just a Master of three powers, she is above skilllevel 100 in her primary three magical branches, and no slouch when it comes to the magical basics. Its impossible to know how deep her pockets go, but her status as a Life Master means she could demand nearly any price for her services and nobles will gladly pay to be rid of highlevel diseases, regaining lost limbs, removing unwanted scars, getting rid of inborn deformities and so on. Raising funds wouldn't be her greatest worry.

    Randy makes an educated guess about the approximate price for construction materials for the discount version of the three tiers of portal they have access to:

    11.000 gold for a novice portal
    28.000 gold for an initiate portal
    126.000 gold for an apprentice portal

    A novice portal should be well within the means of the HT. Its very expensive, but 11.000 gold isn't out of the question for a large tribe with access to many natural resources and allies such as the wood elf kingdom to buy from. Some of the materials such as the 2000 golds worth of pure gold (10 pounds) they may already have.
     
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