So...how do non-kindir see in the mists?

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  1. Mister Bill

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    You could have had a Picasso.
     
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    Have to kill the Alchemists as well, after all They would know the Recipe as well, as might the Torturer.
     
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    Alchemists might be tricky if they are noncombatants. Richter has expressed regrets about killing goblin noncombatants before and that was the bloodstone.

    On the other hand, it might be worth putting them in a prison camp for the duration of the conflict.
     
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    Bugbears if converted could serve the MV, as free citizens, not sure how would all race hatred thing play out in the end them being different alignment and all.
     
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    Racial hatreds can be worked around. Not that I think Richter will integrate the bugbears as full mist citizens, given their natural proclivities towards evil. They would have to do what the sprites did when they became Meidon, find a way to become a new bugbear race with a different alignment. The way duergar became evil.
     
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    f**k those Bugbear!

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    just make sure to build a soul room first so that the dungeon could consume souls!
     
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    No way. Throw them in the dungeon. Maybe in a Room to do alchemy if you’re going to be nice.
     
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    Richto has offed like 1.5k gobbos, should not matter anymore from this point forward also he has burned like ~30+ noncombatants so far.. whats a few hundred more of living sacrifices?
     
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    He didn’t do those on purpose.
     
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    Free alchemist labor was my thought as well. Kindness and mercy have their place, but so does practicallity. In a similar vein, have regular bugbear prisoners till the fields as payment for their upkeep. Have them build roads, clear back forest, plenty of tasks for prisoners to earn their feed without them taking harm from it. With the mists in place they can't even run away.
     
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    I dunno. I don’t think a black dude from the US is gonna enslave folks.
     
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    Prisoners of war have always been asked to pay for their own upkeep through labor. That's not slavery.

    The bugbears most likely can't be trusted to stick to a parole forbidding them from taking up arms against the village, so the only alternatives to labor I can see is either sticking them in a prison camp doing nothing or executions. I'm pretty sure the bugbears would prefer labor.
     
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    Good points, but would he let them leave when they’ve worked long enough? And maybe know his secrets? I don’t see anyone holding and releasing enemies like bugbears and such.
     
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    Just as you would in the real world, prisoners of war would be working on projects that don't need to be kept secret, freeing workers for other more sensitive tasks.

    So if the enemy wants reports about clearing woodland, digging latrines or taking care of fields then yeah they'd be able to share their experience in great detail.

    As for what said prisoners could overhear, its certainly a concern. But its not like Richter can turn the area into a trading and production hub without compromising somewhat on information security. Once they are connected to the wider world, the enemy (that cheater!!) will be able to tap into the information stream no matter what Richter does to prevent it.

    Anything major Richter wants keep secret at that point would need to be kept tightly under wraps where regular civilian villagers wouldn't know about it.
     
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    When Richter got the formula to the mist salve it had the same name as whatever the runic name of the mist village is (which means it’s old) I would think that the tribes in and around the area have had the formula to the mist salve for centuries since they were one part of the Mist Empire (assuming it was an empire based on several factors, including all the cores). The potion is straight forward, and the kinder spoke of how stories were passed down of rulers of the mist. I would guess that any tribes in and around the area who where once apart of the Mist Empire would pass the knowledge down as basic knowledge
     
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    After thousands of years, I think its already a testament to the kindirs perseverance that their tribe has managed to survive invasions, wars, natural disasters and so on. There is no gurantee that the other tribes have a connection to the mist empire, let alone that they remember it.

    Its also a question of whether they would be trusted with such a thing. We know the kindir were trusted vassals as they were the ones with control over the sepulcher that was used to raise the undead armies of the empire. We also know that the mist emperor extracted an oath from the kindir king to protect the sepulcher, an oath he kept beyond death until he was finally relieved of his duties by a new lord of the mistt.

    Would the mist emperors of the past have trusted other races as much as they trusted the often naive and goodhearted kindir? We know some the mist emperors were downright evil, such as the one who created the abomination. The old empire was likely a quite different place from what Richter is building.
     
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