So who do you guys think is behind the basilisk alliance?

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  1. Dragon

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    That would indicate she comes from the whisper woods, which means the enemy alliance is even bigger than it seems. I'm not sure whether she is called a drow in book.
     
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    Richter calls her a drow to himself, but thats it. She is also a "Whore of Darkness".
     
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    Not necessarily, she could be a contractor, opportunist, or even an out cast.

    True Foil hat theory inbound. In her younger decades, at some point the HM goes to the whisper woods and studies there, overcoming her aversion to death magic (known to be prevalent there from yoshi's comment about the koolari). She is betrayed by Modara, a Dark Mage, cementing her hatred in both the elf and in dark magic. She retreats to the forest of nadria and begins her isolationist practices.
    I have no proof of any of this.
     
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    Its as good a theory as any. :)


    Looking purely at the map, it looks to me like the whisper wood has some form of corruption effect going on, spreading into the forests north of Filonar as well as the slightest bit of purple at the edge of the eastern forest. Maybe CPT is right and the alliances longterm goal is to spread corruption. In addition to conquering all they can
     
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    Hark!

    For what words have I heard!

    “Luke, you will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view”

    Obi-wan in Return Of The Jedi

    Isn’t that the cats meow.

    Only one thing could make it better.

    Shout..........

    Go ahead

    You can say it.
     
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    I do like that shared corruption angle. Serrated Mountain dwarves might have fallen to the basilisk alliance.
     
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    Nah, truth is truth. Either it’s correct or it isn’t.
     
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    Yeah, not so much.

    You haven’t ever read the parable of the cave or heard the story about the three blind men and an elephant have you?
     
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    Of course we have :)

    But their different perceptions of the elephant does not change the fact that the Elephant is real.
     
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    No one doubts the elephant is real. The question of truth is about who’s perception is right.
     
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    Unless it's not a perception of truth, but rather a random thought given words and presented as a possibility. A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation / empirical evidence. A theory instead of an statement presented as fact.
     
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    A persons belief in the “truth” is directly tied to what they know and have experienced. So the “truth” would be relative. We could also say that “truth” is in tune with our senses. Like the three blind men and the elephant, I only know the truth that I have experienced. The same as the parable the cave. My reality is my reality. We often share realities or truths but they normally just cross temporarily on our individual paths.
     
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    Well this is also a good argument for where the Basilisk alliance is coming from. They could come from the mountains.
     
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    Haha what? Either you have twenty bucks in your pocket or you don’t. There’s no use talking about the shadows on the wall of the cave when the reality is simple and clear.

    Yes, your perception might be warped for various reasons. That doesn’t change the reality of whether there’s money in your pocket or not. There’s nothing subjective about if it exists or doesn’t exist in there at this moment.

    This applies to moral truths, too, although that’s a tougher and longer discussion.
     
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    I agree with Obi-Wan
     
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    There you go, my odd looking padawan.
     
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    I don't. He offers a handwave solution to the problem of understanding complex motivations and events.
     
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    You will have handwaving all the way down no matter the complex motivations. The universe is fundamentally based on conscious perception, and scientifically proven.
     
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    This has nothing to do with the thread...unless you go back to all non-normal humans usually say "what is good & evil?" argument again. I think we already have two threads for that.
     
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    No you won't have handwaving all the way down, that's the point of science and investigation, to look for the truth of the matter.

    Proving something depends on taking into account observations. For instance, a man has a hole in his head. Its an observable fact, in other words the truth.

    The universe is made up entirely of hard facts. Sometimes we fail to see those facts as they are because we are compromised in some way, but that is a flaw in the observer, not the observed. That's the reason we look for more witnesses, as well as hard evidence rather than rely on hearsay. The truth is simply the truth, but our perceptions of that truth sometimes differ from reality. Man is flawed.
     




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