Spacial Folding Theories?

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    I know of an area here that doesn’t have a single grocery store in four counties. They all had grocery stores at one time but they all slowly went out of business. All four counties are impoverished low and NO income areas. The lack of desire, education, and the lack of industry has destroyed the region. I would say 90% of the people live on government assistance. The people there didn’t patron the grocery stores and the theft level was high being in such an impoverished area. That is another reason convenience store owners justify higher prices. Crime is out of sight there. Convenience store owners can’t buy like large stores either so their cost is naturally higher. There was a movie some years back called “Falling Down” where they talked about such stores. When We had the Rodney King riots many of the store owners and their families were targeted.
     
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    I can see him getting his hand bit pulling it out of the bag.
     
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    Some places here in WV are similar to that. People drive a ways to get to Walmart.
     
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    Will Ricthers special folding knowledge help him and Roswan with the dungeons inter dimensional ability?
     
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    Sounds like the residents should have done something about it. In a danish context the locals would likely have bought the store collectively or at least they would have tried to raise the money. A local agreement to buy there when possible would also have helped.
     
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    There’s quite a different take on things here in the US. The usual idea is that if it’s worthwhile then someone will make a go of it. And our communities vary in how much unity there is.
    Plus you kinda need money to buy something like that as well as looking to the long term. If you’re quite poor then you might only be paycheck to paycheck at best.
     
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    Or totally living on government assistance.

    You are totally right. People always want to draw analogies often at how they would do differently. Lots of time they can’t fathom the difference and there is really no comparison.
     
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    The only reason a lot of small towns and villiages over here have a store at all is that the people who live there have decided its too expensive or too time consuming to go to a larger town just for daily necessities. Spending a few thousand kr here and now can easily mean saving several hundred a month for the next several years. Not to mention, its not like its a handout, its usually in the form of a loan or the collective splits any profits.

    Many of those people are not particularly well off by danish standards. There's a reason they live out in the countryside, its a lot cheaper. Of course our minimum salary per hour is effectively 16.60 dollars (the government doesn't decide prices in the labor market, but the workers unions and employers union set the ground floor so to speak). Then there's a bunch of nonsense with taxes and taxcuts, as well as danes having less need for insurance etc. so we end up at somewhere around 12 dollars an hour. Which means a dane earns slightly more than an american would in most states assuming they both work at mcdonald.
     
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    I'm not saying you should do anything. I'm simply asking because it seems like a situation with many possible solutions. Capitalism lives on initiatives, it doesn't care how the money for said initiatives are raised.
     
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    Drag, there is nothing I can do. I can’t change people’s mentality at the clap of my hands. Believe me I wish I could! The mind set of a large group of people here comes from their old ways, lack of education, and no desire.
    You would be completely surprised at the people here that don’t truly understand capitalism. Many more here are trapped in what was once “the company store”. Now it’s the socialist dole. We have generations of poor that have lived off the government because they know no other way. Because of the Government system they were paid more for being single parents which aided in the splitting up of families. They also received more money for having more children. So lots of poor people had big families trying to get that extra crumb. Many also hold a natural disdain for the educated as many of the educated treat them with little respect. So education doesn’t make it real far in their circles with the perception the have of the educated.
     
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    This is going to sound counterintuitive, but those people would probably be better off doing some kind of work even if it pays less than welfare or they have to work for free for the local government (works wonder having to pick up garbage or do menial work). Its not so much that people are lazy - not gennerally speaking a least, i've known a few that needed to have their government support cut for a few months - but being on welfare really warps your way of thinking. You get trapped in inaction, depressed, lonely, etc.
     
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    That's not the American dream/way
    A good half of the populace in no way shape or form will ever be convinced that receiving less money will ever benefit them. Regardless of how you explain it.
     
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    I know, the pursuit of happiness. Which you somehow have ended up conflating with the pursuit of earthly wealth.
     
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    We have had generations living that way. Now many people think they deserve a government stipend no matter what. So many people have learned to play the system it’s sickening. They have broke our social security program partially by giving out disability to a lot of fraudulent cases. I can’t even begin to tell you how many I used to see in my line of work.
     
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    IIRC there was a period where judges were told not to question cases.
     
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    Lots of people derive meaning from working. Take that away and they don’t have a ton to live for.
     
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    .......sooooooo spacial folding
    do you think that Storage Rings will appear soon? Would Richter give up a ring slot to have Storage Ring?

    Also, what about Bags of Holding with temperature control?
    It would be useful if one could pour in milk, sugar, flavoring, etc and take out ice cream.
    OR pour in broth,chicken, noodles, and vegetables and take out hot soup
     
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    I actually hope there is no storage ring, a cheat device.

    I do like some kind of temp control idea. Not sure why things are getting spoiled in the bag anyway.
     
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    A Storage Ring would be too easy for a pickpocket to just shove his/her hand in a pocket/bag and empty it out.
    Of course, a scene where a thief's finger snaps under the weight might be funny
     
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    Well the same would be true for a bag of holding. Grab and run.

    So what if you can't open it, the bag itself tells you that the person you are robbing is loaded. Which means ransom money if they want their stuff back. Alternatively, if its someone with a trading ship who is putting everything in bags of holding, a competitor will probably pay well to have said bag or bags destroyed.
     




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