The Imp's Quest

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  1. Cire122

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    Great find on that quote and agree with you.
     
  2. Johan

    Johan Level 16 (Paladin) Exiles Beta Reader Citizen

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    So can Richtær use his diplomacy points with the Orge settlement, no. They need to be specific with the Orge. Same with Kobolds.

    I think...he might have to make love with the ogre queen to get the wand. The wand might even be included as a toy during the encounter. 'Chaos Lord to Pleasure Slave', sounds like a book series.
     
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    You can easily use blood for same action.
     
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    No orcs, OGERS!!

    also they can only lower ur rep if they see u. if not noone know who robbed em
     
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    And why the golum can't carry it? sure if the enemies appear just put it on the ground but otherwise the golum could be even caring dead carcass of monsters f.e. 4 tons of meat..

    Also the glass could still be retrieved even after say 10 days? we dont need a huge amount.. to track the imp.
    we could send the golum.. or few golums..

    I do see the problem with Richto caring it initially.. but still pity to leave such a "resource".. also the glass could be emptied and washed with sand/dirt?! dried out?!
     
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    Is he greater than 200 miles away?

    Initiate Mapping Ring
    Whoever wears the ring will transmit their information to the owner of the Map. Range: 200 miles.
     
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    Very unlikely. The HT is a hundred miles away from the village, so 200 miles would place him in the southern forest or outside of the region.

    Who wears the ring?
     
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    Sion usually, although having Terrod and Randy wear it might be useful if being Companions could go give information to the Magic Map from there Past Travels and Explorations, but don't remember how well it works like that.
    But still Richters Travels will still be Recorded into the Map even without it being in his Presence, so Sion and Co could take it out of th Bag of Holding and look at it to get and idea of where he is compared to them, even if there's no Linking of Map information of where he is now and what the Map already had on it.
     
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    It does work like that for companions, he had Terrod dump his info on it but hasn't used it with randy or Elora yet
     
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    If the penalty for failing the quest is the loss if his experiance points, but he just traded them all away for talent points. Does he loose anything for giving up on the quest? does the imp take over his xp debt?
     
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    I doubt that. Richter isn't losing his exp then he buys tp, its more that he is using it as security to take a loan. The Imp can take that security away, Richter still has it.

    The debt would still be with Richter, now he would just be far, far above what debt he is allowed to hold. Which could be very bad, or unprecedented considering how rare enchanters like Richter are and how extraordinary the circumstances.

    There is also skill exp, which the Imp takes as well.

    Worst case, Richter goes back to level 1, losing all personal and skill exp. He retains the tier up and his profession (probably impaired somehow until he can regain skill level 45), but only regains his original rewards as he levels up after paying off the debt with Alma's help. Skill training from the beginning as well.
     
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    hahahahah I bet it would work just like that Imp would get the exp debt lol

    My explanation cause its superior to all others..
    Why: current Richtos exp is -3 mln exp.

    those 3 mln exp is spent on tallent points, whitch were spent! And The benefits of those points were harvested and used => now we has a Golum that already saved Richtos live.

    No way no how chose we can "loose" the talent points, I think exp debt transfer is a valid possibility.
     
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    As well as all of Richter's skill exp?
     
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    If it weren't for the risk to his skill levels as well it would be worth it to just keep the wand anyway and rely on alma to raise his levels again. But gaining back the high skills would be so long and boring.
     
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    especially the blood magic, and other magics..
    Even a simple skill like traps took Richter at least 3-4 days to level up..
    Though with Alma being lvl ~50 brain draining should rectify the base char lvl very quickly..
    Not sure about skill levels, if he loses them this is bad. The ponly way to be sure is to reread the deal prompt with the imp!!!
     
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    maybe? need to reread the quest description..

    "“let’s say I get all the experience you’ve gathered so far. You’ll go back to level one, your skills will reset, but you won’t have any permanent injuries or debuffs. Either way, you’ll be closer to finding a way back to the surface. Now what d’ya say?”"

    the exp loss is well not much of a big deal Richto could just farm the dungoen for like a week with Alma..
    However the skill loss.. Especially Blood magic.. nope But hey think outside of the box Drago and Find a way to use this minus exp to our advantage.

    Bring us a solution!
     
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    Thanks for throwing up the quote Poke. That makes it seem like he only really loses the experience. Skills reseting could just be a consequence of that. Its possible that as he regains xp and rises in levels, whatever skill levels he had will gradually come back to match what his abilities were at the time.
     
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    Tear down and rebuild the core buildings. I doubt the land can give you negative skill exp, though there might be other disadvantages. I'm not advocating this, but it could be done.

    I suppose the biggest advantage is that "You'll go back to level 1" followed by the promise that other than the loss of exp there will be no further injuries and debuffs. Losing a tier or a profession counts as an injury, so its possible Richter would lose his level, as well as the appropriate number of stat points, skill exp bonuses per level, chaos points (if Aleron is evil he has to pay the whole thing back, meaning Richter is forced to owe the universe x chaos points), maybe even talent points. In return he gets the increased talentpoints, stats, chaospoints, resistance, damage bonuses, special abilities and so on off a tier 2 chaos lord. Basically a soft reset where he gets to build up a new, better character.

    We don't know what would happen with the style. You can't learn it before skillevel 15, but what if you lose said skilllevel? Seems like a harsh penalty.+
     
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    I think, base on the wording of the quest prompt, which is what matters most, that Xuetrix could choose to be less punitive, should Richter fail the quest, taking only levels and the associated XP, but not skills and professions.

    Success Conditions: Steal the Wand of Rotush
    Rewards: Instant transport back to the Mist Village
    Penalty for failure of Quest: Loss of all of your accumulated XP


    Let us say that Richter chooses to barter for the Wand of Rotush instead of stealing it. He Should then add a soulbinding enchantment to the wand, and bind it to himself.

    Richter can then approach Xuetrix with the following two choices: Hold the Quest as failed and reset Richter's levels, XP, and skills (maybe professions too), and Richter get's reborn with all of his soulbound items including the Wand; or would surrender the wand if the imp agrees to Hold the Quest failed and reset Richter's level, XP, and Stats only, but leaving all other skills, professions, expertise, and marks intact. This would be a temporary set back, but would be immensely valuable in the long run.
     
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    3: Xuetrix holds the fact that Richter has soulbound the wand to himself as a breach of the spirit of their agreement (it was understood that the wand would belong to Xuetrix regardless of the specific wording) and as a breach of the conditions under which he relinquished his favor. He calls for an arbiter, which in this case would probably be Nexus, to make a judgment, hoping to have a second round with Richter, except now Richter would be fighting with additional disadvantages and the imp will be going all out from the beginning.

    Nexus finds some merit in Xuetrix's position, but not sufficient to restore the favor. Instead Richter is forced to relinquish the staff and continue on the imp questline part 2 to x. No rewards are given due to Richters attempt to cheat his way out of a more than fair deal.
     




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