The Leige of Chaos

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  1. Andrew Lynas

    Andrew Lynas Level 17 (Theurgist) Exiles Beta Reader Citizen

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    Not really, for one thing it doesn't control everything and every outcome, secondary it could as easily cause problems for Richter as well as opportunities, thirdly there's always a choice for Richter, fourthly everybody else also has Choices that can effect the outcome in some way, Fifthly other Chaos Seeds and Entities (the Dungeon for one) also can effect things due to their Probability Altering Effects, lastly the Universe also has a say.
    Plus Richter Doesn't know how his or others Auras have effected things.
     
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    If Ricther hadn’t lost his concentration when he came in contact with the chaos chard and absorbed the whole amount of chaos what would have happened?

    The story talked about how the chaos made Ricther feel as it ran through his body. It also told how it changed the bloodstone, the steel adder, and the entire worlds balance. Everything seemed to feel its release even the exiles felt the power. They felt the power so much that they tried to escape only to find the old wards still held.

    So why didn’t we see it change Ricther? He did absorb at least half the energy released.
     
  3. Dragon

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    Because he was already a chaos creature.
     
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    Yeah???
     
  5. ShoughtLoud

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    So for everyone else chaos points cause chaos, but chaotic creatures can bank them
     
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    Okay???

    So?????

    What kind of bank did Ricther make?

    The Shard was pure chaos magic right? It changed the the bloodstone, to changes the steel adder, and it changed the world.

    If Ricther hadn’t lost his concentration and absorbed the entire chaos shard what would have happened?

    How would it have changed him or the story?

    Remember it was so powerful the all the Exiles and The Originals were shaken. It was so much magic that they all tried to escape thinking the Chaotic magic had broken their old wards. This was the largest release of magic we have seen in the land as of yet.
     
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    True. Its possible that the power is still in storage but that some of it went to creating Richter's core. That would explain the lack of mentions.
     
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    Bout 100 chaos points

    Also it wasn't the release of power that caught their attention, it was the dawning of a new age, through a revelation of truth. Brought about by his clasping the jewel, not the energy it contained. Also the escaping energy happened after everyone got upset, and everything was changing.
     
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    “The light and dark courts were thrown into an upheaval.”
    Chapter 48 book 6
     
  10. ShoughtLoud

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    Yes, and that happened the moment he touched the shard. The rest of that paragraph, and the following paragraph put the age of chaos beginning, the upheavals etc. happening upon contact with the jewel, then in the aftermath of all the prompts in his face some chaos escapes.
     
  11. Joe Schmoe

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    Idk if i would go that far. It seems implied that chaos seeds are the experiment/special children of the chaos lords. Their souls literally contain chaos and when they were taken to the land the lords of chaos set things up for the chaos seeds to be able to absorb large amounts of chaotic energy as a way to protect the land.

    I dont think just any chaotic creature can absorb the energy as readily and purely as a chaos seed.
     
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    How about "summon weapon" for a chaos spell? Seems like it would be an effective spell that could take full advantage of the luck stat. Mace, hammer, sword, dagger, staff, pike to start then more advanced versions of the spell can narrow the field at the cost of quality or broaden it keeping the quality on the high end. Like a chaotic summon sword spell could be any where from a shitty pitted sword to decent superb quality sword. But a broader high level summon weapon spell would gain even more weapon types and all be of higher quality. Could even screw you over by giving you a crossbow, or sling without any ammo to go with it. Or a ballistae.
     
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    Or Pike while your fighting indoors in a Small room, or a Weapon you do know how to use like a Chakra or Chain Whip or Blow Pipe. It Weapon suited to be used by a Giant or something with more then two arms.
    Still might allow Richter to Learn a New Weapon Skill.
    Are Summon Armour&Shield Spell might be interesting for similar reasons.
     
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    Exactly, I'm thinking the initial spell (level 1) would be pretty limited then the progressive ranks get more and more out of hand
     
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    Will the addiction to chaos points make being a liege lord and vassal relationship unworkable? It can not be good to always be looking at each other with those hungry eyes.
     
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    Does the liege Lord get to pick the sea of chaos offering? It provides a second chance to pick an item that was passes up the first time.
     
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    Heman isn't an example of what a normal person who gets a shot of chaos points will be like. He was an unstable psycho on earth who murdered his superior when said superior found his means of torturing prisoners too depraved. When you give someone like that a drug and promise more for killing, well the results are predictable.

    Normal guy gets a hit, sure it has an effect. Just like it has an effect if he smokes marijuana or uses any other drug. Normal people won't kill for that, they kill because of the abstinences afterwards driving them to a point where they will do anything to feel good again. Even then its usually late stage druggies that prefer to kill rather than steal or rob.


    Richter seems to suffer from no abstinences after sucking up heman's points. Heman for all his craziness did not seem strung out and desperate, and he had drained dozens down to their last life.


    Will some of them go off the deep end? Yes. Mentally sick people, drug-users, otherwise vulnerable people (including a lot of people broken by their arrival in the land or by indiscriminate chaos seed killers like Heman) are prime targets for something like this. So the usual suspects.

    Most people will be fine, some might be a bit more bloodthirsty than they would otherwise be. That kind of person will likely be kicked out of any chaos seed organisation they are part off or at best be put on low-level duties where they can't hurt anyone.
     
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    My question is do we know if chaos seeds can even be monsters? Like do they have options that wouldn't humanoid? And I would assume that all chaos seeds would have to have sentience.
     
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    We do have a little to work with on this now. In gods eye one of the gods took on a spider form. If 9t works the same a chaos seed could be at least part monster but would retain their sentience.
     
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    If they have a monstrous form with sentience I think Richter would be willing to work with anyone of the right morality. I don't think any chaos seeds that have evil personalities would have any other end except being killed by Richter.
     
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