Tier 2 Beings

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    And not "this one time in the off pages, I talked to Randy and Hisako about this thing". We need hard dialogue for a lot of this.
     
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    Starting with the book of core buildings!
     
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    Might it be possible in the future for Richter to summon the raw chaos look to his eyes (like in the Ascension room) to add a bit of 'effect' to his gaze?

    Think it'd be a cool ability to Instill fear/insanity/other debuffs through exposing beings to a vision of raw chaos from his eyes
     
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    It would definitely cause the natives to lose their nerves.
     
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    would it be worse than the red eyes he gets from the "eye of the death god"?
     
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    Good question. Also, could he do both at once and really freak folks out?
     
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    I don't know if this has been brought up, but since Richter unlock all four powers and creatures are being affected by the mana, could the Eaters start evolving into something worse? A Tier 2 Eater Queen might be a big problem.

    Any thoughts on what an evolved Eater might be like? Bigger? Poisonous? Flyer? Wield magic? Become mind controlling parasites? Start singing show tunes? Etc
     
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    I don’t think anyone else has mentioned them specifically. That would be a big issue.
     
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    Bigger, stronger, higher levelled grunts as well as faster breeding - think armyants, individually they are trash, but in hordes of thousands they will take down tier 2 and tier 3 creatures like its nothing. Hopefully the eater queen is not within the aoe of the mist pop or another pop, that would be disastrous.
     
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    Maybe he could lead them to attack the Basilisk alliance. Or the kobolds. Or both! All of his enemies!
     
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    Yeah, they’re already a problem. Becoming a gigantic problem isn’t out of reach.
     
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    Ya know The Land is biased against even builds. 50 Stat points in one attribute is required to reach tier 2 Human.

    Normal human: @ lvl 45 x 4 Stat per lvl = 180, 180/9 attributes = 20 stats increased per attribute. With a base attribute Stat of 10 for each attribute, that would be 30 Stat points.

    Chaos seed human: @ lvl 45 x 6 Stat per lvl = 270, 270/9 attributes = 30 stats increased per attribute. With a base attribute Stat of 10 for each attribute, that would be 40 Stat points.

    I hope the kids know to specialize a bit or work out some attributes outside of leveling 10 points. I wonder if there is a bonus for having each attribute at 50.
     
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    What if the Queen Eater is a Tier 2 and the four awakened powers creates SEVERAL queens?
    Oooooooo, if that happens there could be a Queen Eater with an affinity for each power (life, air, dark, & water) that breeds eaters with a magic attack/bite
     
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    Most people can earn a significant amount of extra points a low levels. Richter kept earning points for stats before 25 though the last required extreme exertion. That's not something I attribute to his chaos seed status, its simply due to him training hard and fighting hard.

    With an intelligent training program it should be possible to raise the average child to a minimum of 20 across the boaard. with the driven going well above that. Levelling should be for adults that have finished their training.
     
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    Agreed, but I don't feel like anyone would really just across the board it. At a minimum, charisma and luck would take hits as soft attributes with low returns. Also like Dragon said, you can train stats rather easily at lower levels. The fact that charisma is just 'clean and take care of your hygiene' as well as going out and talking to people, I probably wouldn't bother with more than 5 extra points in the Stat. Luck, probably 15 also. General human, unless it's obvious they are magically talented, won't put a lot of stock (any really) into int or wisdom as seen in almost every human we have Stat pages for. Almost 30 extra points right there, to split between remaining 5 atts. Most people will pump con since living longer than the other guy/gal is a tried and true method. End generally will take a hit, (just look at lord gyoti) and str dex and agi will almost never be leveled evenly.

    Basically the people who need to worry the most are people with severe ocd.
     
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    Also, some professions most likely have attribute modifier talents.
    • Warriors probably for stamina
    • Mages definitely have one for intelligence and probably wisdom
    • Courtesans probably charisma
     
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    Well, that would be terrifying.
     
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    No, what wou be terrifying is that those four affinity queens are serving a five stories tall, 8 primary magics affinities, Eater Empiress who is a chaos seed and Richter's ex

    DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!!!
     
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    I was thinking about Elora and I think we all agree she is still tier 1. I am hoping Richter teaches her and power levels her to go for tier 2...after she gives birth to another queen.

    If she changes into something that doesn't need pixie bonds, then it's all good that one isn't around.

    Via her character sheet, the only aspect that stands out is the celestial part. Though I would assume she could go back to a tier 2 normal pixie too, depending on the requirements.
     
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    Well we know from richter spell the in is possible to evolve with out ascension. None of his creatures have evolved into a tier 2 variant.
     
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