2 New Golems For Richter crew.

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  1. PokemonThug

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    Ye I bet the brits will just ignore russian nuclear bombers of the coast of england. Maybe ukraine will join in next 1000 years. maybe not. Russia will not allow this. But We will see. If they want to die, they will.
     
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    Russia doesn't have a say. If they attack the EU militarily, they have a nuclear war on their hands. If they start an economic war they get pulverized by an economy ten times the size of their own as well as 40% of their export market. That's the thing people forget. Russia can close the tap on the gas, but 60% of their GDP comes from selling raw resources such as gas, oil and ores, much of which goes to the EU. If they close the tap they hammer their own economy. Followed sharply by the EU shutting down most of their trade.

    There are good reasons Putin doesn't push harder in eastern Europe which the EU sees as a key area for expansion, while pushing hard across the middle east and central asia where there is no major native power player to reckon with.

    Russia has allowed the EU to take nearly all of the eastern bloc. Meanwhile Putin postures and makes the occasional empty threat to nuke Denmark or some other country, only to "clarify" that he actually meant something else afterwards.
     
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    unique: Greater soul bond, weapon respawns with wielder in perfect condition. Weapon is destroyed upon wielders final death.

    +2 to the effect of endurance, constitution and intelligence. Meaning you get 12 hp/sp/mp per stat point instead of 10.

    +20% increased stamina, health and intelligence regen
    +10% to stats per pop level to the wielder

    Settlement spells are 25% stronger and you can summon constructs from the next pop power at tripple the cost in upkeep.

    Special:
    Soothsayer.

    1) The wielder can force others to speak the truth as best they know it. The wielder is bestowed greatly increased insight into the motives of others.
    2) The wielder cannot lie.
     
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    If war brakes out its a free for all every country will join, noone will be untouched. Who cares about economy if there is nothing left but dust. so really this is irrelevant. You can expect a diplomatic solution as much as you want but real power is power. And Russia will always have allies in the east and south.

    Who needs eu, Chinas economy is insane. But this is not the point Ukraine will never ever join the eu. Or boom boom
    Also your ideas in eus gains is really not worth much.. its more of a liability.

    really eu is like germany and france.. rest are mostly freeloaders
     
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    The russians will care when their economy collapses a week into the conflict as they attempt to push into the eastern countries. They'll care when they can't get their shipping, their navy or their submarines out of the baltic because the sounds have been mined.

    As for militarily
    The EU's economy is ten times the size of Russia's, their population is 4 times larger, their standing army is larger, they have nearly as many planes/ tanks/ ships and those they have are gennerally more advanced than Russia's home built vehicles, especially the 20% or so from the seventies Russia is still using. Their production capability dwarfs Russia's, meaning the EU will outbuild them if the war drags on for any length of time.

    Russia has more nukes and more raw materials in their territories. They are definitely a threat, but they are one the EU can handle.
     
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    And I thought y’all were talking about Golems.

    Adding to the fire here. I saw the President of the Ukraine talking to Biden yesterday. It really looked like the guy was about to break down. He seemed really upset about something and the news broke away fast. I imagine Biden was being a Prick. With all the news that the Ukraine participated in about pay to play and investigations on The Biden family taking money it appeared the guy was cornered.
     
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    It had been mentioned that Ricther should use some other enchanters to help make a golem. I think Ricther needs to include Hisako. She is his best ally and she knows how to use others mana. When it comes to creating the next golem Ricther does need to include everyone he can. He has sworn to lift everyone up as he rises. Ricther will have more mana at his PoP but with Hisakos ability to drain mana from others Ricther could also draw from everyone else. That would also be useful when enchanting his ship.
     
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    Don't bring American politics into this, its too fraught with tensions right now :)

    EU vs Russia isn't a hot button topic, because its so unlikely to happen. The EU has a big hold on Russia's export market (40+% ) and Russia has a hold on the EU through the gas pipelines. There is a balance of economic power where both can harm each other badly without firing a single shot.

    People forget Russia is run by a handful of billionaire oligarchs, who are heavily invested in the russian economy. They won't ruin themselves or throw tens of billions in trade profits away over Ukraine. They only cared about Crimea because it is a popular tourist destination for Russia's wealthy.

    That's not to say the EU shouldn't be spending a lot more of its money on the military. The EU should be spending hundreds of billion more on a common military, but we just aren't there yet politically.


    As for the second burisma investigation it is my understanding that it has been concluded, was concluded while Trump was still president and never implicated hunter biden. Was hunter biden qualified to sit on the board? Sure, he was there for his contacts in the US, including joe biden. Its not a crime to hire someone on the basis of their connections, on the contrary, its a common practice in the business world.

    The Ukrainian president looked fine to me, given the circumstances of him visiting the US after being pressured/threatened by the last president. He desperately needs a strong relationship with the US to strengthen Ukraine's western ties and get support against Russian aggression. From his perspective a failed meeting could mean another invasion with tens of thousands dead.
     
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    In regards to the claims of significant, widespread voting fraud, take a look at Joe Biden and the democrats. Are they smart enough to pull off three consecutive scams involving tens of thousands of people across dozens of states without leaving actionable evidence behind? Either republican politicians are making false claims or they got fooled thrice in a row by the same people despite knowing they were coming.

    Politics aside :)
     
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    Has anyone brought up the standard crystal light-aligned golem that uses magic and its physical properties to create immensely powerful light beams? That could be fun as a siege golem.
     
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    I see what your going for, but crystal light golem just makes me imagine a sand like golem that makes sugary water
     
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    A Glass Golem might work for this, as long as it's made the right way.
     
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    That would be pretty awesome.

    Another possibility, could they use the crystals from the cavern as a material?
     
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    It would possibly use all of what little crystal he has in the cavern.
     
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    I love it when you say don’t bring politics into something that was all about American politics.

    O yeah I forgot about Trump pressuring the Ukrainian President by telling him if he didn’t do something he wouldn’t get the money.

    After all Trump did make a joke about the money publicly right?
     
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    yah bido has em y the ballz, if his sons sexy adventures in the candy land becomes publicly known shit.. its bad.. so bido withholds a few B$ from the ukrainians to motivate them and close those investigations.
     
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    love these double standards by Drago, you can't bring it up but he can. That's our Drago, winning every argument with fitness of truth optimization.
     
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    That was mostly a joke about not bringing in american politics.

    Americans like to ignore the fact that the EU as well as several of the member states wanted Viktor Shokin out of office. Not because he was hard on corruption, but because he was one of the most corrupt men in the country in a position to shield those who paid him off from any consequences no matter how bad their crimes were. The EU trades a lot with Ukraine, many billion Euro every year. Corruption is a massive issue.

    Viktor Shokin was mostly untouchable before the war and the economic realignment of Ukraine towards the EU. Neither the EU nor the US had sufficient leverage. The war gave them that lever in the form of military and economic support as well as the threat of withholding them.
    Joe biden bragged that he was the one to finally get rid Viktor Shokin and get someone decent in place. He should be proud of that, even if he used brute force to do it.

    He diden't do so randomly, it was part of a strategy to start cleaning up Ukraine. Much as the EU works or worked on cleaning up Poland, Romania, Jugoslavia, Moldovia, the baltic countries, Georgia and other east european states. The soviet union left aging infrastructure and a web of interwoven corruption stretching from the bottom to the top in their former client states. 20 years after the fall of the soviet union and things are starting to look up a little, but there is still plenty of corruption, more than in Greece.

    As for the burisma investigation, hunter biden was at no point under investigation in the first burisma investigation or the second. He was on that board for his connections in the US, both to the business community and to Joe biden and other democrat politicians, with very little connection to the running of the company, which the prosecutors knew. Its not a crime for a company to hire a foreigner in order to establish business relationships in their country, on the contrary, a lot of companies hire foreigners, especially americans with connections in north america. Just as americans hire europeans with connections in the EU.

    You guys should read the transcript of Trump's phone call to the ukrainian president, there is very little ambiguity about what Trump wanted.
     
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    It was more of a joke combined with a sigh.

    We really shouldn't have dragged american politics into a discussion on EU/Russia relations and relative strengths. We risk the ban hammer.
     
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    It wasn't all about american politics at that point though. It was all about Russia & the EU. Now did it morph back into a discussion about american politics? Yes it did, it seems every political discussion ends up being dragged into that malstrom even when its about other great powers.

    Personally I believe both Russia and the EU stand to lose more in this debacle than the US, this is firmly within their sphere of interest as well as that of China. This rogue state is in the heart of Eurasia, its quite possible it will spread the cancer of extreme Islam to neighboring states, especially Iraq and Syria.
     
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