All things Dungeon

Discussion in 'Debates & Discussions' started by Captain BlackJack, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. ShoughtLoud

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    Not true, in the simplicity of the statement. According to Randy to claim an item of power is a harrowing ordeal which at a minimum involves giving the Harbinger the true death. Not such an easy task if it's reborn through the use of Dungeon Points.
     
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    We are all good. I think Aleron has left us all ignorant of lots of things.
     
  3. Captain BlackJack

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    NO DOUBT! Taking on a dungeon to retrieve an item of power is no simple thing. The bigger the dungeon the harder that would be. An endeavor like that might create a great need for a grimoire.

    No harbinger or dungeon worth its salt is going to let you just walk in and take its IoP with no fight. Yet all you must do is touch it and claim it.

    As far as the harbinger being reborn it took 24 hours after the DP’s were instantly applied. One day might not seem like much time but I suppose that would be fair.
     
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    We don't know that. It could be that a battle of wills between you and the Dungeon occurs when you touch an IoP to claim it, or a myriad of other things. "touch it to claim it" isn't confirmed.
     
  5. Dragon

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    If he has to do that, he should stick to kindle and other ebook formats. Or at least include an ebook copy as a bundle with each physical copy or audiobook. Its unfair to the buyers to alter things after the fact.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
  7. Waterhobit

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    It would also be nice, if he could keep a changelog of retcons he has made. It might clear up some confusion for us.
     
  8. Captain BlackJack

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    What one thing can a dungeon possibly consume but not ever Recreate?
     
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    I do believe that randy stated the the harbinger must be given the final death (not just death) in order to get the item of power.
     
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  10. Captain BlackJack

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    So what does that mean?

    Is that saying you need to kill everything in the dungeon. Then wait 24 hours for the harbinger to be respawned and kill it again? At that point would he Dungeon have enough DP’s to respawn the harbinger again?

    I wonder is that something Randy knows or believes to be true?

    It just seems to me that you would be in an infinite 24 hour loop.
     
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    Nah i figure it means the dungeon has an emergency spawn rate and when it can’t spawn the harbinger anymore...
     
  12. Andrew Lynas

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    There might be Specific Weapons &/or Spells that can be used to give a Final Death to a Harbinger, probably very, very difficult to create, use and cast.
     
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    I have still some beef with giving a Final death to the Litch lol
    Looked like an ordinary death though..

    What is actually final death vs just death..
    With Litch there seemed like was no difference
     
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    Nah his core building was destroyed, pretty sure That was his phylactery
     
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    Singh the Lich is dead. That’s not to say we won’t see Singh the demilich 2.0
     
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    Aleron told us he died the final death.
     
  17. Captain BlackJack

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    I KNOW!

    Read Pokes comment above.

    I’m just trying to give Pokey some hope. As it seems he doesn’t think Singh should have died that easy. If Singh’s skull was used to make a demilich would it still be Singh? It could’ve been cursed by RakShasha. Sorry for the poor spelling. Singh the Lich is dead and now it could be Singhs skull the cursed Demilich.

    Reread the first five words of my post.
     
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    After thinking about this I’m not so sure. I think once everything else is defeated in the dungeon and the harbinger killed it’s a open house. I think the 24 hour respawn for the harbinger is granted for the victors. That they might have time to find and claim the dungeons heart.

    I believe the all of the dungeon was an extremely important event for Ricther. The call of the dungeon allows the dungeon keeper and masters a chance to save the dungeon from being harvested. There is NO doubt that was the maulers plan in my mind.

    The I don’t recall the Mauler casting magic, using any special weapons, or items. That’s why I would rule out those things. The Maulers brute force was sufficient to destroy everything in the dungeon and to kill the Adder.

    What do you think the Maulers intentions were once he had the dungeons IoP?
     
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    I agree with you on this one.

    Now, given that the Mauler for all its ferocity, cunning and even intelligence was still controlled primarily by instinct, its likely it was seeking out sustenance and growth. Its possible that having slain the harbinger and taken the Iop, it would drain the Dungeon.
     
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    I believe it was mentioned that strong Labyrinth Creatures could and would Drain the Dungeons Heart, presumably of Mana and Dungeon Points, and possibly Experience, leaving the Dungeon very weak and dropping its Level, that is what the Mauler was after doing. Although I suppose that it might be possible for a very Young and Weak Dungeon to be accidentally killed during this process or for something else to enter the Dungeon after it was Drained and then Remove the Heart and Kill it.
     
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