All things in “Gods Eye” in relation to “The Land”

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  1. Andrew Lynas

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    Might be purchasable from the Sea of Chaos, which begs the question, might Chaos Magic Cores exist and if so how would they differ from the ones we have seen so far?
     
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    So far magical cores have seemed techno-magical in origin, not divine.

    I assume they were built by greater civilisations long gone, and now they survive as the epitome of massproduced buildings of power. Of course, there could be remnant states on other continents that still retain the knowledge of their production or even fullblown ancient empires that have shut themselves off from the world.

    Stellaris-style fallen empires come to mind. Too decadent to rise up and dominate the world, way too powerful and advanced for anyone else to mess with them in any way.
     
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    Yeah, the banishment of the Gods may very well have led to a civilizational collapse. Imagine all the priests who lost all their class abilities instantly...
     
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    Yeah, probably about half of the most powerful people on the planet suddenly impotent wouldn't be great for any established power structure.
     
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    Could this be considered a cataclysm? Is there a strict technical definition of cataclysm necessitating large increases of ambient mana and the creation of bloodlines, among other powers?

    Ive been wondering why the gods were banished, and how. The Exiles probably contributed, as the HM suggests. Perhaps the key may be the the Lattice world network. Gods (or at least powerful ones) can go between worlds using the Lattice World Network. What if The Land was severed from this network? The Gods would have to make a choice, remain on The Land and loose their empire, or abandon the one world in favor of all the others. Most Gods would make the choice to leave The Land, I think. The hole in the theory would be what if not all the gods wanted to leave, surely some would stay on the one world, and I don't have an answer other than maybe once they are severed from the network they die or loses their godliness.

    A corollary, if The Land is no loner in the network, a legendary dungeon bonus would not be able to add The Land to the network. There may indeed be ways to add a world to the network but Richters achievement so far does not seem... grand enough for this type of event. Not to mention adding a new world to the network precipitates some sort of frenzy as seen in God's eye, which we have no evidence for (and I hope doesn't happen) in the land.

    A God Node must be something different than a portal for gods elsewhere. The Land series may converge with the Gods Eye series, but not so soon, not in this way. We don't even know if the time scales match up correctly; God's Eye may have taken place decades before or after The Land. There could be good reasons for writing God's Eye after book Eight, there could be information in God's Eye that is relevant to book 9, but not necessarily.
     
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    The gods were banished from the Land, there was no choice about it. Its implied on several occasions that a few still struggle to get back in.

    The lattice is a section of the universe, a number of interconnected worlds that center on a prime world which has gradually been absorbed by the labyrinth. Which is what the gods are fighting over. What most of the gods are unaware off is that this isn't just any world. Though as to what's special about it, we'll see what Aleron comes up with.
     
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    Its probably not a cataclysm type event, just an everyday apocalypse.
     
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    I think that the God's Node in the dungeon might let him access the lands which in the gods reside. Otherwise I'm not sure what purpose it would serve.
     
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    the term "god node" may not necessarily indicate any connection to gods within the labyrinth or on other labyrinth worlds. It may just be the rank above master. There may be a ranking system for nodes such as Basic -> Lesser -> Advanced -> Master -> God.
     
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    I’m hoping it ends up being something better than that.
     
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    One crossover/connection I would like to read in Gods Eyes sequel is the MC meeting one of the gods from The Land pantheon. Maybe the previous god of luck would be interesting to meet.
     
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    The biggest difference is magic I would say. On Telos you can't unlock magic without a caster class? If yes that would make spell-caster much rarer than in the Land.
     
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    In the peninsula something like 1 in 100 (at most) have sufficient magic affinity to learn any of the forms of elemental magic. Far fewer have talent for deep or higher magic. Few of those talented discover their talents because mages are rare, and the means to easily figure out who has magical talent are even rarer.

    From commentary in the courts, many of the higher powers such as gravity and time are currently unknown in the Land.
     
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    Not unknown, just very, very, very rare.
     
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    The bonus on prayer is so OP, I think Aleron will have to nerf it. Imagine a god with 1000 in an attribute, which should not be that uncommon for the truly powerful (we already saw a worm with 370 constitution in Monsters). You would get 100 stats * devotion as bonus.

    EDIT: It could even kill you. If a level 1 gets 500 bonus strength, I don't see how your body handles it.
     
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    Maybe their devotion will end up being calculated as .001 or something. Or the calculation is different from different gods.
     
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    What happens if a skill book from the Land ends up in Telos? Does it refuse to work unless you get the class first?
     
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    Hard to say. It might work the exact same as long as they have the slots for it.

    We haven't heard of soul slots in the land, but a max capacity for acquiring skills would make sense as another limitation.
     
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    So even after Earth became a labyrinth, they are all still going to the chaos place to be strapped to tables... Interesting. Or maybe not and he was just special.
     
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