Cooking

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  1. PokemonThug

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    So Richter got poisoned by magic fire BBQ scorpion meat, raw meat.

    Now I'm not sure if eating raw flesh of a scorpion would make Richter sick.. but with his insanely high constitution he should be fine.. its like sushi?!

    Another option would be to use scorpions Armour as a skillet and cook on it? or in it..
    Damn just burn some stones and cook on them..

    Any reason why Richter could not eat the meat raw? with his Const it should be fine??

    Perhaps cooking would net you some additional bonuses.. like +10% regen over next 50 min.. still raw meat saves u from starvation. As long as its not contaminated by intestine bacteria, or stays too long without freezing it.
     
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    Could be that due to the acid in general it needed to be cooked. E.g. red kidney beans are great, but if you eat them raw you are going to have a very bad time (nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.) Obviously not apples to apples. A bean vs meat and most examples of the examples of poisonous if consumed raw comes from plants but it's The Land and I'm sure they have their own rules for stuff.

    Also, fun fact even though sushi is raw if you buy sashimi grade fish in the store most of it was exposed to extreme cold to kill certain things. You are right though that you can eat raw meat for most things no problem if it is fresh and the animal is healthy.
     
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    If he kept cooking the claws it would have been fine. cooking with fire magic like he did with the little ones, was the way. I thought he did, with a shell that is actually a frying pan, but he got sick anyway. Should have just eaten the claws that were roasted while killing it with every other spell.
     
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    I agree with you about if he kept cooking it but I think PokemonThug was talking specifically about why he got sick eating raw meat that was fresh.
     
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    Probably a combination of several factors.

    I'm an curious if there is a (sub)Skill that would allow for the Merging of effects of both the Cooking Skill and the Alchemy Skill, would potentially be very useful to boost both.
     
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    His constitution refers primarily to his bodybuild and his overall health, but not so much his resilience against diseases, poison, parasites etc.

    Eating raw meat from giant insects is a good way to get sick, poisoned and or infected with parasites, especially when your prey is clearly an alpha predator that in turn picks up all sorts of shit from its own prey (thats one reason never to eat predators, those things are nasty on the inside). Richter should be glad it wasn't worse. Well not yet anyway, better head for the nearest healer for a full bodycheck. Gotta get rid of the worms and other parasites he just picked up.
     
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    Great point. Do not eat predators for the most part and especially we should not eat mammals that are predators. The culture of eating certain foods and not others were mostly built for very good health reasons*.

    Beef tartare is delicious though.

    *Footnoted that there are always some exceptions.
     
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    He did reference his constitution for not being able to get drunk easy, ie. Processing poison
     
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    A faster metabolism working its way through the alcohol, at least thats what it sounds like to me. With poison involved, that could backfire badly as his body more rapidly processes it. I meant to imply this above, but he probably does have greater resilience, either specifically or as a consequence of the upgrades his body has gone through, its just not the primary purpose. Might be a secondary stat similar to his mental resillience.

    We know he can still get really, really drunk so he isn't immune.
     
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    HEY!








    WHO created this thread on COOKING????








    Betty Crocker??


    :p:D:rolleyes:

    ;):)
     
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    I think one of the prompts said he made the food worse by part cooking it with magic fire. so i guess the magic part made it more likly to make him ill and the cooking part less. As he under cooked it he made it worse than raw scorpion would have been, and the later ones he overcooked had swung back to edible
     
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    No, it was PokeMonThug.
     
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    I believe that it caused him to get (I think it was?) Fire(?) Mana Poisoning. Makes me wonder if Richters Fire Mana Resistance had been higher if the effects of the Poisoning might have been less?
    If so then if he got a comparable amount of Water Mana Poisoning in what he had eaten then he might have faired much better with much less ill effects, and likewise he might have been worse off if he had had less Fire Mana Resistance then he has?

    Although I am wondering about wether this (eating Mana Poisoned Food) might be are way to either increase Mana Resistance or to gain a Resistance (Sub)Skill that might help to reduce the effects of Mana Poisoning and possibly slightly increase regular Mana Resistance's?
     
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    Do we know it was “fire mana poisoning”? Or was that just speculation?

    I would think that being so far under ground it might be easy to come across some really bad materials to burn. Any large number of items found to burn could be toxic or corrupted by any number of bacteria. Endotoxins and exotoxins would likely be found in great abundance’s among molds, bacteria, rotting organisms, and feces scattered everywhere. I imagine Aleron being a MD that those would be the likely cause of Ricthers gastro-catastrophe. Not saying that he couldn’t play into the magical fire making him ill.
     
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    The Water he found (that was guarded by the Scorpion) was Contaminated by Toxic Metals (I think it was Metals), can't remember how much of that he drank though. And he did eat poorly Cooked Scorpion Meat, so that was another danger source. But I'm pretty sure that he also had Mana Poisoning. So it's likely that his suffering was caused by a combination of different issue's and source's.


    It occurs to me that if Eating something that was Cooked by Magical Flames can course it to become Mana Toxic then it's possible that if you Kill Something with a large enough amount of Magic Spells that those Spells might also course the Flesh to become Mana Toxic as well?
    And for that matter if a Beast Creature is Magical enough it might be naturally Mana Toxic to some degree. This is likely to be more true for Higher Tier very Powerful Magical Beasts/Creatures from Higher or Lower Planes (Demon, Hell, Celestial, Death, ect, Planes), in which case unless Specially prepared by Professed Chef's (maybe even Specialised Chef's) they might only be safely Eaten by someone with a High Mana Affinity Resistance to their Mana type and probably with a similar Tier Level to what they are Eating? I wouldn't be surprised if most Undead are naturally Mana Toxic with Death Mana, unless they are very weak short lived types.
     
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    I always assumed that he got sick from eating the scorpion because he ate it AFTER he cast harvest on it. After a few harvest casts it turned to dlsg, so even one cast can't be good to the meat quality.
     
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    Can't find anything about 'fire' mana poisoning just an allusion to mana poisoning/ contamination

    This disgusting reflection of poor life choices was only partially prepared in a magic fire. Raw in places, charred in others, it was also contaminated by the ambient magic used to “cook” it. It was inedible from the beginning, but several days of decay have made it a major health hazard. Whatever happens to the fool who eats this is well deserved. Hopefully they die before procreating.

    Good god! He knew that the prompts were just a reflection of his own subconscious, but why did his subconscious have to be such a dick? Shaking his head, he pushed past his annoyance. Evidently, he’d found the reason for his explosive decompression. He’d also learned that using magic to cook things was evidently not the greatest of ideas. At least he had hope for his upcoming meal.
     
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    So don't use mana mimicking fire to cook your food.

    Use it to ignite your firewood and cook your food over a mundane fire where the only risk is smoke inhalation. Or setting yourself on fire.

    Magic has rules for safe use, just as electricity has rules, and the new fifth fundamental force will likely have its own rules.
     
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    I imagine there are spells that can accomplish cooking and such. Some sort of vibration magic from earth, magnification from light, some form of infrared from fire or something. But yeah the basic spells not so much
     
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    I see someone is missing me lol.



    So burn Scorpio in oil. And eat a bunch or Antiviral/Antiinfection supplement. so perhaps.. but I believe at some threshold constitution/endurance should absorb bacteria in fresh meat.

    Damn it all again, you can't trust anyone.

     
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