Cores, Potions, & Everything Magical

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  1. Captain BlackJack

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    Ricther might learn to mimic abilities for a short time. It seems like that should be very possible via his blood magic and bloodline. That would make a good first step.
     
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    If that is possible then it would be a much Reduced version of its Abilities, say 5 to 10 percent instead of the usual 30%. Possibly with an Adapt Rank and Bonus as well?
     
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    I would like to see Richter Learn the Skills and Magic of a Blue Mage (someone who can Learn Magic and Skill like capabilities of Beasts), and that might be a Talent of a Professed/Specialised Blue Mage, although there are likely other ways that that might be done.
     
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    I like the idea but what else could they do?
     
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    Doesn’t his dungeon already have a blood siphon ability that allows his monsters an ability like that?
     
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    Not an idea I mean I'm pretty sure the prompt said "these are the options available to you at settlement level 1" which means more should arise at level 2 and onward
     
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    While admittedly being alittle nitpicker here. I got to say your assuming it was eldritch magic he was going to use to steal limitless. Most likely was, but i very much doubt eldritch is the only way to do that.
    Honestly i am fully expecting to see soul magic appear at some point. If for no other reason than richter getting to make a soul brother joke. B4 you comment on the dating of that phrase, remember it is supposedly like 2030 something in the books and he is using slang and pop culture from the early 2000s
     
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    I don’t recall that.

    So back to my question what will those options be? What else could they do?
     
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    What two ingredients do you want to see used or tested at the cauldron?

    Mine are the celestial fruit and a egg from the spider queen. I suppose those could count for four items.
     
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    I know several of you didn’t like the idea of making Alma the recipient of a PoPs heart crystal. I know some of you say she can’t receive one or use it.

    If it is possible Ricther could turn a nearby PoP into a complete monster state. What better way to have a buffer between the MV and other would be enemies of the state. Ricthers village like the HM’s are constantly hunting and killing higher level monsters as their PoPs grow. A non populated area with a place of power would offer higher level monsters to hunt. As Alma and Ricther leveled up her place of power the monsters would constantly get stronger and grow in number. I suppose if you don’t like the Idea of Alma having her own PoP Ricther could give it to SLOTH!

    Let’s just hope it has a earth and life ley line.
     
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    I doubt that Alma can become a Master of a PoP YET, but give her a few more Evolutions/Ascends and once she can Learn Skills then I believe that she probably will be able to. Might be best if she can become a Master of a Place of Power that has different Elements the MV, say Fire, Earth and Light at least, possibly Death, although having an Element that MV has so a Portal could be made between them could be very useful. But it's highly unlikely that he would come across a Heart Crystal for a Five Element PoP, probably Four at Max, but more likely Three tops. I'd There then I'd probably go for Light, Fire and Air for her. Although if he can get another Soul Familiar then he might be able to get all the Basic Magics as PoPs in time?

    If Companions can Share Abilities then that might be another way for him to Learn/Gain PoP Abilities for all the Elements if he gives the Heart Crystals to his Companions, as long as they have required Affinities for them? Although wether he would also get a Master Rank in them as well ???!
    Also would having a Vessel who is a Master of a Place of Power give him some of the Benefits? Possibly but probably only as a Reduced degree, say a 15 or 10 Percent boost instead of 30%?
     
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    True. But i don't think there is going to be a way to steal parts of a soul (abilities are part of the soul) that isn't some of the vilest magic in existence.

    Call it a hunch. We know magic to trap the souls of sentient beings is some of the darkest magic in existence. A sure way to an evil alignment, political ostracization and banishment from your community. Actually damaging that soul is probably not well seen.

    That's not to say it isn't possible, spiritual magic should have it as an option. Or corrupted spiritual magic, aka eldritch spiritual magic.
     
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    Congratulations! You have gained 5,500 Settlement Points.
    Your Level 1 settlement allows you to instantly achieve feats in the following categories: Buildings, Research, City Mechanics, Resources, Dungeon, and Terrain.
    You have one day to expend these points or they will be lost forever.
     
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    I’m not so sure about that.

    It’s really a matter of what Aleron wants to do.
    Ricther has the dark soul stones. If recall correctly the Hearth Mother is suppose to cleanse those. That would leave several options.

    1. The souls are cleansed of evil and the stones remain with those souls.

    a. Those souls remaining in the stones communicate that they don’t mind being used for good after committing so much evil.

    b. The Hearth Mother sees the cleansed stones containing the souls as an Evil that they didn’t commit. Although she understands that they are now a resource that can be used for good.


    2. The souls are cleansed and the stones are destroyed.

    a. Perhaps any remnants could be used by the cauldron.


    3. The souls are cleansed and set free leaving empty stones capable of holding sentient souls.

    a. The Hearth Mother has seen great evils and understands the power of chaos. He HM has a rightful fear of chaos and those that can use it. The knowledge and fear of those things she knows and has seen forces her to except that the cleansed soul stones should be used. As long as they are used to remove the evil chaos seeds that continue to reinfect the Land. She also expresses that those stones should only be allowed to put to righteous purposes.
     
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    Yeah, we all know what settlement points can be used for now.

    I recall your quote but You said that there would be other options as the village levels.

    What would those options be?
     
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    They diden't commit any evil, they were cursed spirits with no sanity remaining to them. Good or Evil is usually a choice.

    I'd assume they leave 20 empty stones behind, capable of holding special level souls. To capture chaos seeds will take a magic capable of capturing their souls, having a container is just one piece of the puzzle. I don't really see the need, most chaos seeds are sure to back down when they realize how much power Richter has at his back - unless they are batshit crazy like Heman. I think level 20 would be at the extreme high end, with a few outliers such as Richter.

    The reward for handing them over to HM will be worth more than 20 special level soul stones. It should help immensely to reduce any remaining doubts about Richter from her mind. More fame points and relationship points, which in the long run will be more useful.
     
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    The hearth mother destroys them while freeing the souls, Regardless of wether or not destruction was necessary.
     
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    I was simply pointing out that there would be more since it said "Your Level 1 settlement allows you to instantly achieve feats in the following categories". The whole "why mention it if it's not coming into play later" thing. I have no idea what else could possibly be done with them, as the things they are likely to be are almost assuredly restricted from level 1 settlements, and thus we would not have encountered them yet.

    Just some broad strokes ideas based on the systems we do know that I don't even really like.
    1. Using them to affect the chance of children being born with higher affinities. Diminishing returns and reverts to zero when the next child is born. Limited to skills the village is aware of but also are confirmed to exist (no rumored skills).
    2. Buy diplo points with settlements you've already met
    3. Timed multipliers on loyalty and morale. Like for the next month all earned points doubled (negative too) but gained points are permanent in that after the month is over they don't get halved
    4. Increase Epiphany chances for a short time
    5. Increase the likely-hood of finding lairs/ significant locations (expires after finding the next location.)
    6. A Pot-Luck. Literally a place to dump settlement points that can passively increase the luck stat for villagers but won't change their character sheets. (Unique to PoP Masters that are also Chaotic Beings)
     
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    My theory is that the spirits, after being purified by the HM will grant Richter a skill or ability that one of the souls possessed in life similar to what the Tefonim queen did.
     
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    Yeah I should have added that one it’s definitely another possibility.
     




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