Cores, Potions, & Everything Magical

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    Know This! You have consumed the flesh of the First Fruit of a Quickening. By eating this Unique herb, you are now bound to this Quickening.

    This line alone just called the first fruit a unique herb. That literally means just one. The rest are quickening fruits.
     
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    I assumed it was the first fruit of the harvest.
     
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    Well, unique rank, at least.
     
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    I think everyone who eats the fruit of the quickening becomes (bounded) tied to it. The tree doesn’t only change Ricther it also changes everyone else that consumes its fruit. The tree did recognize Ricther specifically. It recognized Ricther due to him allowing Elora to bond with it. You are correct that Richters Notice was singular. I think it would have been a bit improper for an individual recipient to get a prompt in a plural form. I believe everyone else that eats of the first harvest or any of the following harvest will get a notice in a similar singular form.

    I don’t think Ricther’s Prompt was making the claim he was bonded to the celestial tree in the same way Elora is. I think everyone that eats from the trees first fruits or its sub-sequential will develop a bond to the tree. It did say that eventually if enough fruit is consumed that they would all become celestials. They just can’t do it by eating all the fruits of the first harvest.
     
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    Pretty sure everyone else will get ‘by eating this herb’ without the unique, because unique quite literally means the only one of its kind. I also find the idea of a unique class of anything more than a little ridiculous. I can see artifact being used as a class, but more likely that level will be call divine or something similar. What ever aleron uses for the above legendary class for herbs will probably also cover food and drink. Idk about you but I would definitely balk at eating something with artifact attached to it.

    well if richter is receiving quests from the tree, doesn’t that mean he is in service to it in a way.
     
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    In a way. Aren't we all in service to those we care about, doing things for them that they can't do for themselves?
     
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    I totally agree the In that the Celestial tree is probably a one of a kind. I believe the story actually mentioned how long it had been since there was a quickening. Isn’t the celestial tree one of possibly two quickenings in the Land? If so with it bearing its first fruit which are more powerful then the normal fruit those fruits would be unique in the Land.

    Drag, I agree everyone serves someone even when it’s in their own intrest.
     
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    It is the only quickening in the Land. Its the biggest treasure Richter has.

    Dungeons and Core buildings are powerful but far from unique.

    The quickening on the other hand has already created an entire race of celestial beings at level 2. It has massively increased the rank of the fairy race, meaning they get much better stats per level and other bonuses. Should they tier up its likely being celestial will open up new options.

    Not to mention the powerful fairy creatures that those fallen fairies will be turning into now that they have been brought back to their queen and she has tied them to the surrounding trees. Bring forth the celestial ents :D
     
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    I know we have talked some about magical synergies. For myself I have only considered the synergies of materials but I’m sure someone else has mentioned the synergy of magic that individuals might have. I would like to know how individual synergies would amplify the power of spells. I would think magical synergies should apply to more than the mana cost of casting spells. For instance if water mage had a spell called steam then learned fire magic would that spell do more damage? Light and darkness can blind an individual so if a mage new them both ow would that affect his casting blind? Life and water magic might work together in spell casting for plants.
     
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    I think your steam example is a good one but in a different way. A more advanced steam in my opinion would be a new spell made of both fire and water magic. We know that there are spells with more than one magic type involved. I think nexus cast one with like 8 or 9. I figure research down the magic theory track will eventually branch into multi-element spells. Finding that magic synergy through further research. Mostly it will remain at the grease/weak fire level of it for a while.

    i also still think that dual professionals will eventual find talents requiring both professions. That would be a professional synergy.
     
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    The Goblin Druid used a Four Element Talent Spell "Elemental Maelstrom", Fire, Water, Earth and Air. Apparently in order to Specialise as a Druid you need to be able to use those all of those Elements.

    A person that can use Light and Dark Magic would likely be able to choose to Specialise as a type of Illusionist, if they could also use Thought/Mind Magic as well then probably could choose a rarer & more powerful form of Illusionist, maybe more so if Water was added?
     
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    Figures you can combine professions as well? Someone with alchemist, mage (any element, with certain talents only being usable with certain elements) and herb gatherer might be able to combine them into the advanced profession, Witch, strengthening most elements of the weaker professions, while opening a few unique talents to replace ones that are no longer compatible.
     
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    We see that to a certain degree with Richters Specialized Enchanters Talent for converting Spells that he Knows into Enchantments, once he Professes into a Mage we might see Additional Options open up for in that, and even more likely once he gets a Mage Specialization. Plus likely certain Profession Talents in both Mage and Enchanter, even more so when he Professes in Crafting (and Smithing).

    Something similar will likely occur in Herb Lore and Alchemy, and probably Herb Lore and Cooking. Maybe even Alchemy, Herb Lore and Cooking?

    Combat Specialization Talent Synergy Talents should be interesting, Yoshi had one from his Warrior Profession and War Leader that he used against those Living Dead in Raiders, Call to Victory I think it was called.
    With the Range of different Skills, Weapons and Spell types Richter has and so the more interesting Specializations he could pick the more Interesting, Varied and Numerous those Synergised Talents should be.
     
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    I was thinking along the lines of living spells. Plants with certain elements arranged in a permanent spell formation. The spell being maintained by the plants themselves. This would be and herbalist/ mage talent. Other herb/mage talents could be magic defensive arrays or augmentation arrays. It would make such a mage insanely dangerous in his garden.
     
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    A bit like a living Rune Array made from Plants that Synergistically use their Ambient Mana and the way they are Planted, Grown and Shaped to keep a Organic Rune Spell/Enchantment empowered???
     
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    Sound about right.

    there would of course be multiple levels of the talents. The first level only being good for one element.
    Augmentation arrays would boost any like element spells level by the array level.
    Defensive arrays would blunt any opposing element spells power by the array level.
    Living spells would be a more advanced type of array.
     
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    That only makes since when you consider the mushroom circle that opens a portal to the Fae realm. I wonder if AK will write in other mushroom portals.

    This leads me to magic wands. It has been mentioned that some items might regenerate their magical capabilities naturally in time while others need to be refilled with soul gems. Aleron has based his worlds magic on mana and his ley lines. How do the souls of fallen creatures replenish the mana requirement.?

    If soul stones can recharge the mana requirements of items why can’t a magic user channel their own mana into an item?

    With that in mind if recharging a fireball wand would it matter if it was just plan mana or would it make a difference if they user was a fire mage? I would think if one could channel their mana wether it plan mana or fire flavored it should make a difference. That is the latter shouldn’t consume as much or it should be more powerful.
     
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    There might well be things that does allow you push Mana into a Self Recharging Item to speed up its Recharge time. Say things like -->
    A), a Sub-Skill in Enchanting or Magic (or even in other Skills) that allows pushing a Little of you Mana into an Item, a bit like the High Elf Infusing of their Mana into what they Craft.
    B), an Enchanting Talent of some type for Enchanters.
    C), a Crafters Talent that might allow this to be part of their Crafted Item.
    D), an Enchantment that allows this.
    E), a Spell.
    Ect.
     
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    I don’t think AK has really defined a focus well. It could be that it would help a magic user direct and magnify their mana in any direction they want to go. As powerful as they are supposed to be I imagine they would be capable of that and much more.

    For items that are supposed to be so rare such as cores. AK has gifted his character self with multiple. Yet we haven’t seen a focus free-wielded.
     
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    I think that it might be possible that when the Dark Abomination Black Gem Crystals are Purified by Hisako that Richter might get a Skill (or Skills?) from the purified & released Souls. He might even be gifted a new Ability, but probably not both.
     
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