Eagerly Awaiting Book 9 [SPOILERS!]

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    Would not choas be higher than time? As choas and law itself would be the basis for all of existence itself. Just wondering about it all.
     
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    Well, would either of those powers be something without time around? I think it makes sense to put time at the top.
     
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    So for higher powers we have

    time
    chaos/ order and possibly void
    gravity

    The six powers representing good and evil aka heavenly, divine, celestial, demonic, devilish, and abyssal. Mind you, I'm not saying anyone is locked into acting a certain way.
     
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    Then there are the 3 deep powers, shadow magic and the eight basic elements. Which is just the Powers I remember off the top off my head.
     
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    Racial magics too, star elves are supposed to get some through research or something
     
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    The eight basic elements
    Deeper magic- blood,spirit,thought
    Higher magic- time, chaos, gravity,

    named but not identified- planar magic(category?), shadow, celestial, abyssal, void, ambient particles (star elves),

    names not actually identified as magic but probably are- heavenly, hellish, order,

    alluded to but otherwise never mentioned- divine(probably off limits due to banishment)

    did i miss any? (Must be from books not speculation.)
     
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    Never read the recluse series?
     
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    Nope, should I try it?
     
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    The chronicles of Amber is a series that I believe has some kind of order and choatic magic. Probably the series that best describes how order magic would work for me.
     
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    Modesty jr was in my opinion very hit and and miss. I enjoyed recluse, magic engineer, and a few others. However i don’t actually recommend him myself. My father has a very different opinion though, he has re-read them all. So its a matter of taste and not bad writing.
     
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    True, he may get overly excited and shoot out some water magic in his sleep
     
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    That sounds more like a bladder issue.
     
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    The six powers of celestial, etc. have never been referred to as planar magics in the books. Nor has void, or shadow been referred to as such. But they could be, though the word has never been used. :)

    When the Dungeon of chaos was fed celestial leaves it gave Richter the price for awakening it in Powerpoints.

    10 million seems like a reasonable cost for awakening a higher power. Its a 100x more than the cost of a base power, same as with Richter unlocking a school of magic needing 10, 100, 1000 tp.


    Its quite frustrating that the books aren't more definitive on the subject. Then again, Aleron likes to keep his cards close, an admirable quality in an author.
     
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    It has? I know it's denizens we're referenced as higher beings, but I don't remember it being called a higher power
     
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    Never mind that. The closest i've been able to find is the cost of awakening celestial power being so much higher than that off a base power. Forgot about the references to celestials being higher beings.
     
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    No, that would be Urine Magic.
    Maybe that's another higher power.
     
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    I think the cost is higher due to the type of magic. For instance the life root was something like 50 of a 1,000. The same amount of celestial root would be 50/10,000,000. If that is true and celestial magic can be used the same as life by a healer think of the lives one portion would save.

    That makes me think the Hearth Mother needs to have a private talk with our young queen.
     
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    I would also think that any magic that is Specific to a plane would be called planar magic or called by its specific name.
     
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    Its actually 100.000 points for a base element, but the cost for life was reduced to a hundredth of that due to the POP. Its the same for the other pop elements.

    HM could awaken life by sacrificing 20 (19) roots. That's a lot, but its possible they will start growing (extremely rarely) in the Dungeon afterwards. If so it would be well worth it. Its also possible the roots are unique to the HT, if so it could still be worth it as long as they can maintain a supply, but its much more expensive.

    The remnants of the abomination are close to pure dark power. I'd hazard a guess that its Richter's best option for awakening a Power in the short term given that its only 1000 points.
     
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