POLL New core building (book 7+)

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What will be core building number 3?

  1. Artificers Table

  2. Library

  3. Tavern

  4. House of Healing

  5. Water mill

  6. Mage tower

  7. Mana storage

  8. House of Scholarship

  9. Town hall

  10. Wall

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  1. ShoughtLoud

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    Come one come all, come and make your call

    Will he maintain his choice of short term gain, or will he abstain, and deign to arrange for a long term campaign?

    Rhyming is fun. Now that we're done with the Dr Seuss portion of our post, let's see what you got! Looks like there's a max to number of poll options, we can work it as we go.
     
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    If he pulls a fakes us out...
    It is practically too much foreshadowing for him to keep with the pick. I still sticking with it. This is after all what I think will happen, not what I hope will happen. CHOOSE!

    Are the House of Learning, House of Scholarship, House of Knowledge, Research Facility, Library, all the same?
     
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    No idea, I just misremembered house of scholarship. I'm assuming the core library is the same as a core house of scholarship. I could be wrong, but... Why would you make a house of scholarship not include a place for books?
     
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    Probably a variation of it with slightly different effects and focus.
     
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    If there an option between a library and the (House of Learning)/(House of Scholarship)/(House of Knowledge)/( Research Facility) that we already have, I would select Library. Over the course of the series he calls the House of Scholarship, where he has research done research, many things as shown above.

    He books specifically mentions a library so much, and how he needs to do more reading, that it seeems it will be constructed. There could be some synergy between the two buildings. If one is built next the other...maybe it will integrate it into its structure. Something along the lines of "would you like to add a level 3 House of Scholarship to your Core Library?"
     
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    So you want a separate option?
     
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    Unless you are already maxed out.

    If I remember correct, there are some limitations to what can be done, once votes are cast.
     
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    We all know that Sion is going to ask Roswan what to do with the next core. Then Roswan will go and drop it into the well of offering. There will be a bunch of room requirements and Roswan says "grrrrm, we can't make more". Turns and walks away
     
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    Huh. It appears you can't go back and change them. Well rats. Perhaps it would have been better to start with what my vote was and let people throw in their two cents as we went
     
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    I'll get a reset.
     
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    Libraries are often research related, but more in the direction of lore/ history than new science. It isn't a repository for books though, unless its a smalltown library where basically anyone can work.
    In this case I think the library will supplement the house of scholarship by boosting research speed somehow, while also doing its own thing with lore/knowledge/history.
     
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    Add a school - huge school and some dormitories, and suddenly you have a university.
     
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    Its going to be a Library...Its got to do with the whole Nexus deal and Richter having to ok the librarian to come with the caravan Mama is bringing.
     
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    Golum-fight bugbear army, then like 5 core buildings for 5 days(so that some specialists could really pump their skills).. then sacked to the dungeon.
     
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    "She’s a Librarian, and she could probably help the research of your village progress much faster." Nexus

    ... synergy
     
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    Yeah but we have a level 3 house of learning. And 8 books in total... so no neeed for a library when mc cant even read 1 book of lore in 6 mo uuuaaa( yes i know ifs only 4mo and he read like 12 books, some of magic, scribed some too.)

    So why invent the wheel with tons of resources and months of time. Whe we can just go viking style and rob a few human guilds in yves!?
     
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    Because the entire river peninsula is an isolated backwater tainted by old magics and crawling with evils like the lich, realities that make it unfeasible for outside empires to conquer (basic cost/benefit calculation. There are likely more valuable lands that can be taken at a much lower price)? The technological level should be comparable to Somalia on earth in relation to the rest of the land. Yves is ahead of the other powers technologically, but not by all that much as it doesn't really focus on it. Its been said that it is unlikely even a single master researcher exists in the peninsula and adepts are extremely rare.

    Richter knows technology is a gamechanger in the long run. Even if it takes him a few years to put together a good enough team of apprentices and journeymen to really catch up to the other powers, thats time well spent. As is the investment of the core.
     
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    Yeah, once he gets his kingdom large enough and clean enough and they start looking over, you want to have as many technological advancements behind you as possible for when you meet the other empires. You either are able to match them technologically, soon to over take them thanks to your early investment, or you've already outstripped them and have that as both deterrence and bargaining power
     
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    At the moment the village is not doing active research on a certain topic, directed by the leader. As such would it build up Research Points until he returned? I think so.

    Then when Richtær returns, he makes a core building. The Research skill could be picked, and upgraded. It doesn't need to be research, but some research related skill. This would bring him up to near level 35+ in the skill. I am not sure if it would passively help the research because the Wiseman's journeyman rank of scribing (research related) would surpass Richtær's research related skill. If he did some research, that level 35+ would not make the time and effort meaningless. it would also allow 'lead from the front' skill to come into play. There could also be a better research related skill as well to gain from a core library.

    Assuming Richtær comes back to the village with the village level quest completed, then he can selected the Technocrat specialization, with his new found Research Skill (though the option was available without it)

    The key to the plan is the buildup of Research Points (RP) while he is away from the village. ~24 RP per day in the back at the beginning of book 9. That is when the construction tech will be done. It still won't provide enough points for many techs like his first windfall, but maybe it will be enough.

    The end result of this scheming is to level the specialization within a week, and hope for 3 free Techs. This would be put toward the portal techs. So what are the chances of this happening? 5%
     
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    They are not building up research points that was said to be a onetime thing. I imagine the scholars could choose to research what they want, considering they are doing actual research. Its not just mindless grinding for points, they are studying the relevant subjects and making breakthroughs in understanding (epiphany). In this case its likely Richter will come home and realize the scholars have been put to work on a project by randolphus. It would make sense that the towns administrator has the power to assign resources that would otherwise go to waste.

    The initial points Richter used to unlock research were granted entirely by the pop. Maybe if they could seperate passive generation from active they would be able to put aside the passive points? It would take quite a while to stock up on sufficient points though, epecially as the active generation is already much larger and will only continue to expand as initiates become novices who in turn become apprentices (with the caps in place they should see jumps in research speed as the lower tiers are no doubt going to be filled beyond their capacity)
     
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