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    wasn’t there also something in book 8 about a 5% increase in affinities for members of his village due to something he earned. I’m drawing a blank but it seems like a lot is happening to enable most villagers to gain magic. Now that he has unlocked is other masteries, he should be able to awaken a lot of powers in the village.
     
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    If I remember correctly Krom had a few Earth Magic Enchantments when he first arrived in the Village, so it's possible that he can also Learn Earth Magic as well?
     
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    Possibly, he is a dwarf so an affinity for the earth would make semse.
     
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    An Aquamancer is someone who can use Water Magic (Water Mage) and is most likely the Name of the Profession of someone that Professes as a Mage but can only use (or perhaps primary uses?) Water Magic.
    But what about someone who Specialises in Ice Magic? Would they be called a Cryomancer, but Cryo just means cold and could refer to a Magic that Removes Energy(heat) to chill/freeze things instead? Glaciem means Ice, so an Ice Mage could be called a Glaciemmancer? Wonder which Richter will pick, probably Cryomancer but??

    Also what about a Frost Mage, would that be a variation of an Ice Mage (or even just another name for ine?) and hence only need Water Magic, or would you need both Water and Air Magic to Specialise as one? And would they be classed as a Pruinamancer or something else (Cryomancer?)?
     
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    Well, I don’t recall Ricther mentioning the staff he found belonging to a water mage. I think he called it an ice Mages staff. I guess It still could be a subcategory for a specialist.
     
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    Staff of the Ice Wizard, gave 10% decrease in Mana use of Water Magic. Was created from the Thigh Bone of a Frost Giant and if I remember correctly Soaked in Water of a Glacier of the Far North for an extended (not sure for how long, a year?) period of time before being Enchanted.

    Richter has Level One in the Stave Skill, which I am presuming covers most sorts of Staffs. I am wondering if one of the Bonuses for Levelling that Skill might give Benifits for using Magic Staffs/Staves like a Bonus to Channelling Spells through them or Strengthening the Power of Enchantment Spells fired from them? Or whether things like that might be a Sub-Skill of Staves, or Magic a Skill or Enchanting? Magic Stage Skill?
    For that matter Torrad had a Cudgle Skill, I am thinking that this is probably a Skill for the use of Baton, Truncheon and Rod type Weapons. I am wondering whether there might be similar Skill Bonuses for this as Staves where Magic and Enchantments are concerned? And whether Wands might fall into this Category or are a separate thing?
    If Wands have Skills I wonder what Richter has to do to get them, I think the only Wand he has ever really used was the Detect Magic Wand?
     
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    I am just Rereading a series I like (The Valens Legacy by Jan Stryvant), and one of the Main Characters is a Tantric Witch, and I started to think how that would work in The Land.
    I'm thinking that it's primary a Buffing and Argument type of Magic that allows you to gather power from Sexual Energy, from Physical, Mental and Emotional energy released during Sex, especially if strong emotions are involved (love and pleasure). Capable of being used to Cast very long lasting and strong Buffs, Debuffs, Wards, Item Enchantment Arguments, Protections, Healing Effects, Mind Enchantments/Charms, ect.
    The first Spell that is gained would be one that allows the temporary creation of a second Mana Pool that can Store Mana gathered via sex, initial version can last for about 3 - 4 hours. Others are Spells that Buff Health, Mana or Stamina Regeneration for long time by a good amount, also Spells for temporary increasing your (or someone else's) Health, Mana or Stamina by a small amount but for a long time. Can also be used to noticeably strengthen normal Spells, especially Ritual type.

    Would it be a Magic type of it's own, some type of Arcane Magic that's between Deeper and Higher, Tantric Mana? Or a Sub-Skill of Life Magic, or would Tantric Magic be more of a Specialization? If a Specialization then at first I thought of it as probably being an offshoot Specialization of Life Magic Magic but then I thought that it's more likely to be a Specialization that need the Mage to be versed in All Three of the Deeper Magics and probably Life Magic. What do you think?
     
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    I don’t think it’s called tantric magic and I really can’t recall what it was called. BUT it was used in the Iron Druid series as well. I do remember it was one of many forms of witchcraft.
     
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    Just had a thought about Richters Imbue Arrow Skill, if Richter was to learn to use that High Elf Mana Infusement Skill that that High Elf Boat Builder told Richter about and then experimented with trying to using it with his Normal Imbue Arrows might he not be able to generate new types of Enhanced Imbued Arrow Skills for each of the Magic types he knows? They might be lesser weaker versions when compared to the Alma Thought/Psi Enhanced Arrows (although his MV PoP Element Magics might be somewhere in the middle?) But would still be useful.
    It probably won't be particularly easy, not particularly safe and harm free, for him to Learn to do but would be worth the try, especially if he succeeds, would also most likely need to have a decent level in Mana Infusing as well.
    It's likely that it wouldn't be easy for him to Learn to do this, or particularly safe and harm free, but if he succeeds it would be a good Skill for him to have.

    I am surprised that Richter hasn't tried using the Mana Infusing Skill when he Crafts things. It might also be useful for Alchemy, Smithing, Enchanting, certain types of Art, but probably not Cooking, what with the whole Mana Poisoning Issue from book 8.
    The Infusing Skill would be a good way for him to help in increasing his Magic Skill Levels for those Magics types that are hard to Level like Blood, Spirit and Chaos Magic.
     
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    It wasn't described as a skill in its own right is why. Shiovana is talking about how when you're about to cast a spell, but don't release it, it brings that feeling to the forefront (water magic feels icy or earth magic feels solid etc) and they maintain that state for extended periods of time while they do their work. Shiovana also mentions that whichever spell type they use, the same basic element magic skill also slightly increases as they work.

    It might be a skill (not the first time someone would not tell Richter it's a skill he can learn) but I don't think so. Possibly a subskill though where to put it I have no idea. Enchanting could work, crafting maybe, 1 subskill for all/ each of the magic types? I don't think it'll get off the ground though. That kind of infusing seems to take a long time to have any sort of effect, and the only reason he gets the psi effect is his soul connection to a psi familiar. Maybe if he unlocks enough spells of a certain type under essence enchanting it could be an option, since those are tied to the soul as well I'm pretty sure.

    Regardless it sounds like a lot of dangerous and explosive experimentation
     
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    It sounds like another expression of magical exposure to ambient magic density. Instead of using mana for a mana blast it’s more of a increase of mana pressure which in time permeates the entire ship over some period of time. Like building endurance I could see every time that it’s used it could add to your ability to push your mana into a greater ambient state.
     
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    "
    With that splash of cold reality, his joy shriveled like a raisin in the sun. He turned his attention back to his next prompt. The numbers he saw shocked him out of his melancholy. It was a rundown of the War Points he’d gained. Apparently, the system credited him with every death that had come from the destruction of the Mausoleum. It couldn’t even list the individual kills, just categories. According to this, he was responsible for tens of thousands of deaths!

    For slaying 5,816 Skeletons, you have been awarded 11,632 War Points.

    For slaying 4,755 Zombies, you have been awarded 9,510 War Points.

    For slaying 162 Professional Skeletons, you have been awarded 1,620 War Points. (War Points multiplied by 5 for slaying a Professional)







    The list kept unspooling. Skeletons, zombies, draugh, and other creatures he didn’t even recognize the names of. They weren’t just common enemies either. Thousands of Professionals and Specialists had been slain as well. Singh had amassed a truly massive army. Even keeping the eldritch lord’s evil magic out of the equation, the legions of undead would have been enough to turn his village into dust. And not just his village; they could have swept through the entire Forest of Nadria. The lich’s threat of invasion hadn’t just been smoke. Richter wasn’t sure exactly what had happened when the undead army had spilled through the portal into his Dungeon, but he was so very thankful his people had ultimately beaten back the horde. If even 1% had made it out of the Dungeon, every man, woman and child in the Mist Village would have suffered a horrible death.

    "

    So it seems that ultimately slaying of litch'es army is a result of actions of Richter. Yoshi had to benefit greatly.
    So Richter killed the undead.
     
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    @Andrew Lynas actually upon further reflections.. you might be right.
    Say Tom is a war vs Jerry.

    Tom hires a mercenary company to off 10 of Jerri's guys. So from War point perspective, he has "slayed" 10 ppl. But He himself has not killed so many ppl. Thus he gets the war points as a War party leader but not the actual experience and buff's like "Goblin slayer" because he himself has not killed those dudes.

    There is a difference between war points and read exp for killing.
    So I think you might be right here.
     
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    Richter has just gained a War Leader Skill that allows him to gain a percentage (5 or 10 %?) of Experience that his War Party gets for Killing Enemies, but I don't think that he gained it till after the Mausoleum was destroyed, so it didn't help him in Bk7, or for that matter Bk8.
     
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    There is another aspect to consider. Namely that most of the kills were made by Alma, a level 40+ creature, setting off a bomb.

    Most of the casualties were not professionals, so below level 20. Only a small percentage were specialists or higher.

    The reason that matters is exp depreciation for hitting down. We know from book 7 that killing creatures much weaker than you will only yield 1 exp. Challenges yield personal growth.

    Those 10000+ regulars are only worth 10000 - 20000 exp to Alma. If Richter gets 5% of that its 500-1000 exp.
     
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    I just had a thought about Richters Magic Map, his Map Synergies with his Herb Lore Skill where the location of Herbs are concerned (at least while in his Domain, less so outside but still has some, plus that would likely increase after he Professes in it). So it's likely that once he gets the Mining Skill that that will also Synergies with his Map, as might other job Skills.
    But what I was really thinking about was how his Map might Change once he gets the Sailing and Navigation Skills? How that would likely alter and add things to it were those Skills are involved, like possible Depths of Water, Wind Directions, Tidal Currents and Ride Times, ect. Also possibly Star Charts(?).
    If he gains a Flight Skill, Flying Mount, Flying Craft or even just Map with Flight Navigation & Travel Routes he might get information on that include Wind Directions, Jet Streams, Updrafts, ect.
     
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    Just had a thought, Alma can Cast Settlement Spells, so might this be are way too sort of bypass the One Year Cool Down issue with the New Settlement Spells? Once for Him and once for Her a Year?
     
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    Has anyone speculated on whom will Richter use his reincarnation spell? I have wondered if Aleron will throw out some type of quandary for Ricther. I can see him having two very important characters die and he can only bring one back.

    I say it will be Hisako. If it’s two characters to choose between who better then Hearth Mother and the Celestial Pixe Queen.

    I don’t expect Richter to use the resurrection spell more then once but I think it will be played up well.
     
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    Sion or Hisako.

    Both of whom would immidiately slap Richter.
     
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    Isn't Alma considered part of his soul? Which is the reason she can cast the spells that he know. Please someone let me know if that is correct or not.
     




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