This is NOT GameLit!

Discussion in 'GameLit' started by Paul Bellow, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. Paul Bellow

    Paul Bellow Forum Game Master Staff Member LitRPG Author Shop Owner Citizen Aspiring Writer

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    Haha. Just kidding...

    So... what should we talk about?

    I know @Matthew Sylvester has released something under the GameLit banner. Anyone else?

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  2. Gryphon

    Gryphon Level 16 (Paladin) LitRPG Author Citizen

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    The question for me is what should I place mine under now that I've learned about the second subgenre? Is it LitRPG or GameLit when teh mechanics are there but kept under wraps to focus on the story. Are they one in the same or do we have a better defination of one or the other?
     
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  3. John Ward

    John Ward Level 12 (Rogue) LitRPG Author Citizen Aspiring Writer

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    Stat heavy stuff is LitRPG.

    Stories that are based in a game world and that contain game mechanics (either implied or explicitly stated) are GameLit. @Dustin Tigner can give you the official definition.
     
  4. Alexis Keane

    Alexis Keane Level 14 (Defender) Roleplaying Beta Reader Citizen Aspiring Writer

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    What about Dungeon Born and Sufficiently Advanced Magic? They're not set in game world although they do have implied game mechanics
     
  5. Kidlike101

    Kidlike101 Level 17 (Theurgist) Citizen

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    I say go broad and place it under fantasy / fiction / Sci-fi

    Or just go hipster and deflect with a "don't label me! I'm a person not a can of soup."
     
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    Kidlike101 Level 17 (Theurgist) Citizen

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    Dungeon born under awesome

    S.A.M. under YA, it's more of a maze runner/ hunger games / divergent genre. I thought we were over that crap by now.
     
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  7. John Ward

    John Ward Level 12 (Rogue) LitRPG Author Citizen Aspiring Writer

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    The Dungeon Core stories are weird because they really don’t have the stats or even a defined game mechanic and yet they’ve always been accepted as LitRPG. Sufficiently Advanced Magic is probably more GameLit. Yeah, it’s one of those that still falls outside the lines, but if I had to put it in an either/or situation, I’d call it GameLit.

    @Kidlike101 just wear your Campbell’s Soup label and be quiet, okay? I’m joking.
     
  8. Gryphon

    Gryphon Level 16 (Paladin) LitRPG Author Citizen

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    Well, I guess I fall under GameLit then.
    I will agree to file Dungeon Born under awesome though. I'm waiting on book two's audio to come onto Hoopla.
     
  9. Alexis Keane

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    Read your sig... can I have a beta read?
     
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  10. John Ward

    John Ward Level 12 (Rogue) LitRPG Author Citizen Aspiring Writer

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    GameLit is the larger umbrella term. LitRPG is a subset of GameLit according to how it’s been described.
     
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  11. Dustin Tigner

    Dustin Tigner Level 12 (Rogue) LitRPG Author Citizen

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    You can find the definition on the site GameLit.org.

    For those not wanting to go to the site:

    "A story with gaming elements essential to the plot.
    Often includes features of Science Fiction, Fantasy, or Science Fantasy.

    While all LitRPG books fit within GameLit, not all GameLit books fit within LitRPG."

    The way I see it is, LitRPG is more for crunchy stories (although, there is Soft LitRPG, which I feel is a different term for GameLit).

    People want to see the stats, character sheets, etc. GameLit opens this up and allows any story where gaming elements are essential to the plot. If you can take the gaming elements out of the story and nothing changes, it's probably just Science Fiction / Fantasy. Otherwise, it's GameLit. :)
     
  12. Alexis Keane

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    Yeah, it's just such a new genre for both aspects of it that everyone's got an opinion and noone's got a clue. It just ends with sheer madness as people try and ascribe and exclude things from what they feel the genre ought to be...
     
  13. Alexis Keane

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    interesting :)
     
  14. Kidlike101

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    Don't bother, I bought both the book and the audio. (yes, I'm that big of a fan, the book came out yesterday) the audio isn't as good as it was in book one. it's kindda weird because I think book two is even better then one. stick to the kindle one on book two
     
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    Huh, I found the voice of the narrator slightly grating, but maybe that was just me...
     
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    I don't know if it was the same one. I liked him in book one but this one is just annoying me so far =/
     
  17. Alexis Keane

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    Yeah, i fine there's a fine line between expressiveness and caricature when listening to audiobooks...
     
  18. VRRanger

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    @Gryphon I would confidently place your book in LITRPG unless there is a marketing reason to not do that. I think given the rising audience base you would be doing yourself a disservice not to. @Dustin Tigner is Gamelit already a widely recognized established term like litrpg? Perhaps you can be a couple of sub genres? A hybrid ")
     
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  19. James G Patton

    James G Patton Horrific Pun Master LitRPG Author Citizen

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    That reminds me of when I was in college and this sorority was doing a food drive. They basically danced like strippers, but had soup labels covering their female bits. It was on campus, so they couldn't just show it all. It was very effective, it was their most successful food drive ever.
     
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  20. Dustin Tigner

    Dustin Tigner Level 12 (Rogue) LitRPG Author Citizen

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    GameLit is really for those that don't fit LitRPG. Of course, if you fit LitRPG, you automatically fit GameLit. You can claim to be in both, or one, or none. You can use the term, or just apply it to your meta data for book searches.

    The recognized genre of GameLit is quite new, though it has existed for a long while, just as LitRPG existed before it was coined. GameLit is about one month old. It's gaining traction pretty fast, as it gives authors that are not LitRPG "enough" a place to call home. That was the intent. :)
     




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